When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***

[Foxel]

Disagree. The vans get so hot and offer no protection from the heat after the first hour. You wouldn't leave a dog in a car.

[Foxel]

We've been told to come in an hour early, i'm going to come in even earlier than that, get in, get out, get home.

But will you get out any earlier? Could be a long wait for the truck.

[norris9]

Disagree. The vans get so hot and offer no protection from the heat after the first hour. You wouldn't leave a dog in a car.

you go out on your round with a dog?

if the van is too hot for everyone in the first hour then we might as well cancel working for the rest of the summer. Come back in Autumn.

[yellowbelly]

Disagree. The vans get so hot and offer no protection from the heat after the first hour. You wouldn't leave a dog in a car.

you go out on your round with a dog?

if the van is too hot for everyone in the first hour then we might as well cancel working for the rest of the summer. Come back in Autumn.

Why not, I thought you wanted to walk out for two weeks anyway, just go for the whole summer - hot weather perfect excuse surely....

Can we just walk out for 2 weeks. Please.

[SW17]

Apparently there is an official stance on this now re. Simon Thompson on workplace agreed with CWU? For the red danger to life forecast but for some reason has not been shared with posties yet.
It used to be a good place for information hear, used to like Dingos feedback, is he still about?

[POSTMAN]

Apparently there is an official stance on this now re. Simon Thompson on workplace agreed with CWU? For the red danger to life forecast but for some reason has not been shared with posties yet.
It used to be a good place for information hear, used to like Dingos feedback, is he still about?

It still is a good place for info, and Dingo has 'come out' he's Martin Walsh the London DIV rep, now a member of the PEC.

[CharlesG]

On severe weather risk assessment it says clearly that once a red warning is in place duties will be suspended.

Surely this has to be the case and any attempts to get posties on street in red weather alert areas would be very negligent of the company

Still.. i would not be surprised.

[Dorset Plodder]

Apparently there is an official stance on this now re. Simon Thompson on workplace agreed with CWU? For the red danger to life forecast but for some reason has not been shared with posties yet.

Well if it's on Wankspace then surely it has been communicated with posties? At least those that use Wankspace.

Perhaps Simple Simon will wait until the Red Warning has expired and then say, "What no one told you about it! I told my TEAM to let you all know. Never minds it's all over now"

[Foxel]

you go out on your round with a dog?

if the van is too hot for everyone in the first hour then we might as well cancel working for the rest of the summer. Come back in Autumn.

If I go on a round with a dog or not has no bearing on the subject. This is a unique circumstance which is set to last a few days. Your exaggerations aren't useful. The fact is you wouldn't treat an animal by leaving it in a hot car. Our vans do not have aircon so do not offer any protection from the heat. I personally get migraines from doing full-day van shifts in summer and this will be by far the worst condition.

[nightcrawler]

On severe weather risk assessment it says clearly that once a red warning is in place duties will be suspended.

Surely this has to be the case and any attempts to get posties on street in red weather alert areas would be very negligent of the company

Still.. i would not be surprised.

Maybe they will have staff in for a few hours to do sorting only, then let them go home early before it gets too hot?
Of course, they will expect you to make the time back up later in the week

[steve1873]

A lot of the preventative measures RM recommend are easily achievable - sun screen, water and wearing a hat. It’s the “stay in the shade” suggestion that is the problem. Unless you have a walk that’s mostly indoors, eg blocks of flats, then staying in the shade isn’t very practical.

It's not a practicality issue. It is literally impossible.

[SW17]

Apparently there is an official stance on this now re. Simon Thompson on workplace agreed with CWU? For the red danger to life forecast but for some reason has not been shared with posties yet.
It used to be a good place for information hear, used to like Dingos feedback, is he still about?

It still is a good place for info, and Dingo has 'come out' he's Martin Walsh the London DIV rep, now a member of the PEC.

Thanks, MW has been to our office a few times over the years, it's just frustrating that we always seem to be the last ones to know anything, my daughters school has even said they will be doing half days Monday and Tuesday, but we seem to have the blind leading the blind when it comes to our leadership.
I do find this site a good place for informationjust frustrated like many others, when did Dingo reveal then, will have to call him that next time I see him lol.

[DiamondSmiles]

On severe weather risk assessment it says clearly that once a red warning is in place duties will be suspended.

Surely this has to be the case and any attempts to get posties on street in red weather alert areas would be very negligent of the company

Still.. i would not be surprised.

Maybe they will have staff in for a few hours to do sorting only, then let them go home early before it gets too hot?
Of course, they will expect you to make the time back up later in the week

If it is Royal Mail telling you to go home then they can't ask us to make up hours later in the week.

[Ozzvaldo]

I work in an office where 2 years ago one of my friends tragically died when he was cycling home after completing a 5 hour duty on the hottest day we'd had in years......but still not close to what they're forecasting for next week.

We were getting all the bullshit about walking in the shade etc as we left the office at 10am with the temperature outside already well over 20 degrees......we were a 3pm finish then, still are, so had to work right across the hottest part of the day.

Our managers breathed a collective sigh of relief when the post mortem revealed that he had an undiagnosed heart defect, as if the stress his body suffered in the searing heat had absolutely no bearing on his fate.

We Have the same management "team" in post now and I truly couldn't tell you whether or not they learnt any lessons from that awful day. There will be, to say the least, a lot of tension and raw emotion in my unit when we seek guidance from the Brains Trust as to how we're going to operate on Monday and Tuesday next week.

RIP Phil.

[Dorset Plodder]

When you burst into flames and someone's droppiong Napalm on you!

Until trhen just drink plenty and stop whinging.

An make sure its cider lolol

Ooo Arr It's amazing how many residents do offer you a cold cider, I always say, "I'd love one but I don't think the Police like people driving around pissed"!