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twoloops
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by twoloops »

Nothing, you have a number & don't ever kid yourself in thinking your anymore than a number :no no
norris9
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by norris9 »

nightcrawler wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 12:08
They are now saying Monday will be around 35, but Tuesday it will be 37 or higher!! Should we even be working outside in those temperatures? Our local bin collections have been affected because the council are saying it’s too hot for bin men to do their job! It will be interesting to see what RM do, if anything.
I assume as it's only an Amber weather warning from the Met Office then you would be expected to work. If it changes to red then maybe they'd have to consider what actions to take.

The higher temperatures aren't due until the middle of the day in my area. See if your manager will allow you to come in an hour or so earlier.
nightcrawler
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by nightcrawler »

norris9 wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 16:31
nightcrawler wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 12:08
They are now saying Monday will be around 35, but Tuesday it will be 37 or higher!! Should we even be working outside in those temperatures? Our local bin collections have been affected because the council are saying it’s too hot for bin men to do their job! It will be interesting to see what RM do, if anything.
I assume as it's only an Amber weather warning from the Met Office then you would be expected to work. If it changes to red then maybe they'd have to consider what actions to take.

The higher temperatures aren't due until the middle of the day in my area. See if your manager will allow you to come in an hour or so earlier.
It makes you wonder what actually constitutes as a Red weather warning in a heatwave? Seeing as the highest recorded temperature in the UK is 38.7c, and next Tuesday is going to be very close - if not higher - than that, how hot has it got to be to trigger a red weather warning?
Wolf91
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by Wolf91 »

People have died on delivery through heat exhaustion and RM still don’t give s**t - as long as the tracked are done :Applause
Jack1960
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by Jack1960 »

Coming in an hour early doesn't always mean you get out much earlier if the work isn't all in the office, if we get our packets sorted by 8 and go out with just tracked and specials we can get done by 11, we did similar when the red warning for wind was given earlier in the year.
We can sort the letters up when we get back Monday and Tuesday
SpacePhoenix
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Jack1960 wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 18:46
Coming in an hour early doesn't always mean you get out much earlier if the work isn't all in the office, if we get our packets sorted by 8 and go out with just tracked and specials we can get done by 11, we did similar when the red warning for wind was given earlier in the year.
We can sort the letters up when we get back Monday and Tuesday
Some of the DOs we cover probably don't get their final run arriving until around 8 and we don't cover such a large geographical area compared with some of the newer MCs
TOWER1
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by TOWER1 »

All,
Talk and piffle with lots of form quotes and directives from both RM and CWU , arse covering.
My partner is a paramedic / Nurse.
She has been called out a number of times to heat related issues. Young and old
Unfortunately the worse cases have been heart attacks.
Extreme heat affects the heart .
Look after yourself and stop if it is making you feel dizzy weak and even a slight stagger.
Mind your sight as well.
Obviously hydration, sun cream and shade etc.
I am coming back in if it gets too much, inner city, fumes etc. I will not be a hero.
And any manager who questions this will be invited to challenge a senior medical professional advice. And in public. It will be taken further and will not accept vicarious liability.
Look after yourselves.
RM won't.
( Especially if you see mirages of a manager offering to give you a hand!)
nightcrawler
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by nightcrawler »

A lot of the preventative measures RM recommend are easily achievable - sun screen, water and wearing a hat. It’s the “stay in the shade” suggestion that is the problem. Unless you have a walk that’s mostly indoors, eg blocks of flats, then staying in the shade isn’t very practical.
claretandblue
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by claretandblue »

One manager has posted his plan on workplace, 5am starts on Monday and Tuesday. I wish we all had this.
eastie
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by eastie »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 19:24
Jack1960 wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 18:46
Coming in an hour early doesn't always mean you get out much earlier if the work isn't all in the office, if we get our packets sorted by 8 and go out with just tracked and specials we can get done by 11, we did similar when the red warning for wind was given earlier in the year.
We can sort the letters up when we get back Monday and Tuesday
Some of the DOs we cover probably don't get their final run arriving until around 8 and we don't cover such a large geographical area compared with some of the newer MCs
Plus then you need 40 mins IPS and then an hour sorting your frame and out the door about 9.30
Then an hour lapsing and start your own round at 10.30 to 10.45
Dorset Plodder
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by Dorset Plodder »

When you burst into flames and someone's dropping Napalm on you! :shock:

Until then just drink plenty and stop whinging. :cuppa
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aiden01
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by aiden01 »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 21:43
When you burst into flames and someone's droppiong Napalm on you! :shock:

Until trhen just drink plenty and stop whinging. :cuppa
An make sure its cider lolol😀😀
mjd24
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by mjd24 »

nightcrawler wrote:
14 Jul 2022, 20:25
A lot of the preventative measures RM recommend are easily achievable - sun screen, water and wearing a hat. It’s the “stay in the shade” suggestion that is the problem. Unless you have a walk that’s mostly indoors, eg blocks of flats, then staying in the shade isn’t very practical.
Blocks of flats are often far worse for being oppressively hot when we have heatwaves. Yesterday i was on a delivery where i do roughly 15 blocks of 3 storey flats and despite it only being maybe 25-27 degrees outside, inside those flats was unbearable as theres no air flow.
norris9
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by norris9 »

at least it's 2 of the lightest days of the week in the lightest month of the year. Shouldn't be too much to deliver if you don't have double mail. Surely they wouldn't ask you to lapse. Most will probably be done 1 hour early anyway.
yellowbelly
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ?

Post by yellowbelly »

norris9 wrote:
15 Jul 2022, 09:35
at least it's 2 of the lightest days of the week in the lightest month of the year. Shouldn't be too much to deliver if you don't have double mail. Surely they wouldn't ask you to lapse. Most will probably be done 1 hour early anyway.
And let's just make massive assumptions about everybody's work load and situations.......