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RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery

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2yearpostie wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 16:35
A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 15:53


You shouldn't have been leaving it under a car in the first place, if the"safeplace" isn't secure you don't leave it.
Even thought the PDA promts you too and RM have a record of the request?
Yes you leave the parcel only if there's a secure place to do so regardless of what the customer instructions are.
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POSTMAN wrote:
09 Feb 2022, 12:14
This is one of the best things that could happen to a postie, anything that takes your time can only be a good thing.
Exactly, this will be the final straw for any runners, no going home an hour early anymore.
Just come in, work your hours and go home. The days of a clear frame are gone.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery

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A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 17:31
2yearpostie wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 16:35
A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 15:53


You shouldn't have been leaving it under a car in the first place, if the"safeplace" isn't secure you don't leave it.
Even thought the PDA promts you too and RM have a record of the request?
Yes you leave the parcel only if there's a secure place to do so regardless of what the customer instructions are.
If a postie can access it then unless it's a self locking parcel box how can any "safe place" really be secure? Plus if the customer nominates a safe place they then take the risk if the parcel is stolen?
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DiamondSmiles wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 17:48
Exactly, this will be the final straw for any runners, no going home an hour early anymore.
That'll probably end anyway when RM start to roll out the scan in/out into DOs
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery

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TopperGas wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 19:04
A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 17:31
2yearpostie wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 16:35
A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 15:53


You shouldn't have been leaving it under a car in the first place, if the"safeplace" isn't secure you don't leave it.
Even thought the PDA promts you too and RM have a record of the request?
Yes you leave the parcel only if there's a secure place to do so regardless of what the customer instructions are.
If a postie can access it then unless it's a self locking parcel box how can any "safe place" really be secure? Plus if the customer nominates a safe place they then take the risk if the parcel is stolen?
You are responsible for the safe delivery of the parcel, yes there will be mitigating circumstances if you leave it at the requested safeplace but if it is clearly an unsecure safeplace you are putting yourself forward for a P45
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A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 19:58
TopperGas wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 19:04
A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 17:31
2yearpostie wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 16:35
A2B wrote:
10 Feb 2022, 15:53


You shouldn't have been leaving it under a car in the first place, if the"safeplace" isn't secure you don't leave it.
Even thought the PDA promts you too and RM have a record of the request?
Yes you leave the parcel only if there's a secure place to do so regardless of what the customer instructions are.
If a postie can access it then unless it's a self locking parcel box how can any "safe place" really be secure? Plus if the customer nominates a safe place they then take the risk if the parcel is stolen?
You are responsible for the safe delivery of the parcel, yes there will be mitigating circumstances if you leave it at the requested safeplace but if it is clearly an unsecure safeplace you are putting yourself forward for a P45
A "clearly unsecure safeplace" is somewhat different to a secure place, as the latter simply doesn't exist if it's not behind a locked door.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery

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What do you do if you're unable to leave the item in my designated Safeplace?
If we can't leave your item in your Safeplace, for example if it would be dangerous for us to access the nominated point; if the item would be exposed to bad weather; or if the nominated point is clearly insecure (for example, a doorstep or a recycling bin), we'll leave your item with a nearby neighbour or if that isn't possible, we'll return the item to the delivery office.

https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... -safeplace
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I hope this clarifies when a safe place is not a safe place:

Why we can't leave your item in your Safeplace, for example if it would be dangerous for us to access the nominated point; if the item would be exposed to bad weather; or if the nominated point is clearly insecure (for example, a doorstep or a recycling bin), we'll leave your item with a nearby neighbour or if that isn't possible, we'll return the item to the delivery office.

We'll leave you a card confirming where your item is, we may also send you an email and/or SMS notification.

You can then either collect your item from your neighbour, or if we've returned the item to our delivery office, arrange for a redelivery or pick the item up in person; full details will be on the card we left.

I hope this clarifies, if you require any further information then please email me. Thanks

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The plot thickens with safe places, more news tomorrow, I have to go out now as my cats have just been blown over into the next postcode and it's right rank there.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery

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POSTMAN wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 23:49
The plot thickens with safe places, more news tomorrow, I have to go out now as my cats have just been blown over into the next postcode and it's right rank there.

NEWS????????????
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Simon's suggested in the comments section on this week's Workspace Q&A they are looking into the issues being raised, given. Assuming this was signed off by the CWA then it's baffling why they didn't previously raise their concerns/advise Simon it's unworkable.
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2yearpostie wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 14:51
POSTMAN wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 23:49
The plot thickens with safe places, more news tomorrow, I have to go out now as my cats have just been blown over into the next postcode and it's right rank there.

NEWS????????????
Hold tight, there is a lot of s**t to go through, somebody remind the numbnuts on there. It's made by Facebook-But it's not Facebook!
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Why do we constantly get told by higher management thats how Amazon ,Hermes etc having been doing it this way.SO WOT DO THEY DO WITH THERE LETTERS. Oh yer they dont deliver them... If I hear the letters are down .D2D increasing,smaller packages (The one most parcel delivery wont deliver) increasing, prime parcels etc.Feels like there trying to run company into ground.
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OPG
the new planning values for Photo on Delivery, presumably they are being incorporated into the next wave of revisions?

Head of Delivery Systems
yes we are looking at this at the moment and the aim is to build the activity time and frequencies into GeoRoute going forwards
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Deployment Lead

Capture Photo on Delivery (CPOD)– Account Tracked 24/48 non signature
The rollout of the software changes that will make the “P” more visible on the PDA is progressing well, I can confirm that this is going to be completed by the 4thMarch.

We will have a go/no go meeting, and assuming this is a go decision it means commercial should be ready to switch over the Account Tracked 24 and 48 non signature mail to receive a photo on the 8th March. Please can you share this to your groups
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