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been searching Royal mail website to no avail. Phoned the franking separtment who were less than interested and promised to call me back (and never did) so am asking on here. I got a package today with a suspicious frank mark which I suspect might be counterfeit. The RM website has nowhere I can put in the franking die number to see where it came from. So, how do I find out whether this is a counterfeit mark or does RM refuse to divulge whether they can be forged or just want to bury it's head not acknowledge counterfeit marks, and keep raising the cost of a postage stamp in order to plug the loss of revenue from scammers?
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fenny wrote:been searching Royal mail website to no avail. Phoned the franking separtment who were less than interested and promised to call me back (and never did) so am asking on here. I got a package today with a suspicious frank mark which I suspect might be counterfeit. The RM website has nowhere I can put in the franking die number to see where it came from. So, how do I find out whether this is a counterfeit mark or does RM refuse to divulge whether they can be forged or just want to bury it's head not acknowledge counterfeit marks, and keep raising the cost of a postage stamp in order to plug the loss of revenue from scammers?
Knowing RM, it's the latter :neutral:

I'm not sure whether it's something that IB (the investigation people who catch dishonest posties etc) would be interested in?
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Revenue Protection would be your best bet.
Quite a secretive bunch though.
Every area has their own Revenue Protection team usually based at the local MC or RDC.
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fishtank wrote:Revenue Protection would be your best bet.
Quite a secretive bunch though.
Every area has their own Revenue Protection team usually based at the local MC or RDC.
Ah ha! I forgot about RP... Yeah, they might be interested seeing as they deal with all the surcharges and counterfeit stamps on things. They're not a customer facing department though so customer services would probably still have to be the ones to put it through to them :neutral:
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Try @RoyalMail on Twitter with a pic,they would probably pass it on if they think it's dodgy.
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fenny wrote:been searching Royal mail website to no avail. Phoned the franking separtment who were less than interested and promised to call me back (and never did) so am asking on here. I got a package today with a suspicious frank mark which I suspect might be counterfeit. The RM website has nowhere I can put in the franking die number to see where it came from. So, how do I find out whether this is a counterfeit mark or does RM refuse to divulge whether they can be forged or just want to bury it's head not acknowledge counterfeit marks, and keep raising the cost of a postage stamp in order to plug the loss of revenue from scammers?
What is suspicious about it?
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anybody can have access to a franking machine you dont have to be a business as long as you pay the company eg pitney bowes
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fenny wrote:I got a package today with a suspicious frank mark which I suspect might be counterfeit. The RM website has nowhere I can put in the franking die number to see where it came from.
Is it possible to scan it and post it on here - we could then give you an opinion on if its fake or not.
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fenny wrote:been searching Royal mail website to no avail. Phoned the franking separtment who were less than interested and promised to call me back (and never did) so am asking on here. I got a package today with a suspicious frank mark which I suspect might be counterfeit. The RM website has nowhere I can put in the franking die number to see where it came from. So, how do I find out whether this is a counterfeit mark or does RM refuse to divulge whether they can be forged or just want to bury it's head not acknowledge counterfeit marks, and keep raising the cost of a postage stamp in order to plug the loss of revenue from scammers?
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mr ford wrote:
fenny wrote:been searching Royal mail website to no avail. Phoned the franking separtment who were less than interested and promised to call me back (and never did) so am asking on here. I got a package today with a suspicious frank mark which I suspect might be counterfeit. The RM website has nowhere I can put in the franking die number to see where it came from. So, how do I find out whether this is a counterfeit mark or does RM refuse to divulge whether they can be forged or just want to bury it's head not acknowledge counterfeit marks, and keep raising the cost of a postage stamp in order to plug the loss of revenue from scammers?
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I think they enjoy yahoo answers more than RMC :sad: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 751AAMgh27" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote: I think they enjoy yahoo answers more than RMC :sad: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 751AAMgh27" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think the answerer(should be a word :so there ) has cofused franking with cancelling. :d'oh!
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