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jbo5066
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Re: Resign
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SpacePhoenix
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When any 2C or DSA item gets released ALL items for that DP are also released.yellowbelly wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 16:33Looks like possible changes to me:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/post/royal-mai ... regulation
OFCOM:
Access letters obligation
Most letters sent today are ‘bulk mail’ – the letters sent by large organisations such as banks, government departments, the NHS or local authorities. These letters are sent outside of the universal service. To support competition in this market, we require Royal Mail to provide access to its letters network, meaning it must deliver letters collected by other postal operators. To realise the benefits from any reform to the USO, changes are also needed to the access obligations on Royal Mail to ensure it can operate the same alternate weekday delivery model for the vast majority of mail. Our proposals aim to enable this while continuing to support a competitive bulk mail market that meets the needs of large organisations and their customers.
Royal Mail is introducing a new access service to be delivered on alternate weekdays, which would aim to deliver letters within three weekdays (D+3) after collection from the sender. We propose to regulate this new service in the same way as we currently regulate existing access services.
We will continue to regulate the existing D+2 access service for priority bulk mail, at least while the market responds to reform.
We are also proposing to remove Saturday delivery from D+5 access services.
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sindba
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Re: Resign
Rurals are unlikely to change much, so if you're in an office that has them, expect them to go like hot cakes.
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yellowbelly
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Well yes, but the point of the quote was that there may be changes to the DTS system. Do you accept that there may be?SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 19:33When any 2C or DSA item gets released ALL items for that DP are also released.yellowbelly wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 16:33Looks like possible changes to me:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/post/royal-mai ... regulation
OFCOM:
Access letters obligation
Most letters sent today are ‘bulk mail’ – the letters sent by large organisations such as banks, government departments, the NHS or local authorities. These letters are sent outside of the universal service. To support competition in this market, we require Royal Mail to provide access to its letters network, meaning it must deliver letters collected by other postal operators. To realise the benefits from any reform to the USO, changes are also needed to the access obligations on Royal Mail to ensure it can operate the same alternate weekday delivery model for the vast majority of mail. Our proposals aim to enable this while continuing to support a competitive bulk mail market that meets the needs of large organisations and their customers.
Royal Mail is introducing a new access service to be delivered on alternate weekdays, which would aim to deliver letters within three weekdays (D+3) after collection from the sender. We propose to regulate this new service in the same way as we currently regulate existing access services.
We will continue to regulate the existing D+2 access service for priority bulk mail, at least while the market responds to reform.
We are also proposing to remove Saturday delivery from D+5 access services.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Resign
Most people have woken up and are sick and tired of the CWU failing them. The CWU is not at 'the table' negotiating on the members behalf. Martin is there accepting any crumbs thrown at him.Jefferson Starfish wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 09:00The CWU are nowhere near perfect, but a least they're at the table with the company negotiating on our behalf.tramssirhc wrote: ↑19 May 2025, 06:53When are you going to tell us what the CWU is doing for postal workers?Sean06 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 21:44Will you ever answer the qustion what pwrfc is doing for postal workers...tramssirhc wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 18:55What's your beloved CWU doing about it?Sean06 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 17:08Get the pwrfc on to it they will have it sorted in no time.tramssirhc wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 15:36What's happening with singleton duties like rurals is still to be sorted. One of the problems with rurals is the geographical spread. It was planned to combine them on a Saturday but for some it would mean driving significant miles. Singleton duties wont be subjected to ODM which is going to cause a lot of discontent. Workers will be seeing singleton duties carry on as now, apart from Saturdays, whilst they try to deliver the core and combined duties. The CWU has no answer.Chelseablue wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:15God this new erm system sounds so straightforward and smooth running ! So much can and will go wrong big time. Rurals i take it will be taking a bit of a burden too i hope , like the rest of us slaves ?
One answer is to defend and increase singleton duties, primarily for workers with contract variation such as no obligation to drive. Most workplaces are located where walking duties can be easily reinstated even if this means transporting and bags dropping for duties. Again the CWU aren't interested in doing this because it's not the plan for Martin Walsh's profit driven method.
Where are the PWRFC?![]()
Oh yes, in their bedrooms writing articles and fighting a keyboard war that most people aren't interested in and think is complete clap trap!![]()
It's time you woke up Chris!
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Jefferson Starfish
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And what exactly are the PWRFC doing to get a better deal?tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 May 2025, 17:04Most people have woken up and are sick and tired of the CWU failing them. The CWU is not at 'the table' negotiating on the members behalf. Martin is there accepting any crumbs thrown at him.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Resign
It'll just mean that the DSA and 2C gets released more frequently. We can't tell what impact there'll be until it's known if many firms will use the new D+3 serviceyellowbelly wrote: ↑20 May 2025, 16:51Well yes, but the point of the quote was that there may be changes to the DTS system. Do you accept that there may be?
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Patmanposts
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Re: Resign
4 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?
MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT
37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45
35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15
30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15
Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT
37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45
35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15
30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15
Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
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A2B
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Re: Resign
Are you a trial office or is this in preparation for later in the year?Patmanposts wrote: ↑20 May 2025, 20:164 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?
MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT
37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45
35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15
30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15
Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
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Patmanposts
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This is a scoping exercise to see how many people would be interested in this working pattern. All in preparation for later this year. I am not a trial office.A2B wrote: ↑20 May 2025, 20:28Are you a trial office or is this in preparation for later in the year?Patmanposts wrote: ↑20 May 2025, 20:164 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?
MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT
37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45
35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15
30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15
Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
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A2B
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Ok thanks, we will probably be shown the options the week before we start the new system 
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ted_e_bear
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That's different to what it says in the ltb update on pilots that was released end of Feb, for a start all the days except Saturdays are the same length no more longs and shorts.Patmanposts wrote: ↑20 May 2025, 20:164 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?
MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT
37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45
35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15
30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15
Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
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Patmanposts
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Yes big difference. That’s why i was surprised to see the hours all over the place, like, just keep it even apart from the weekends.
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Patmanposts
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Chin up, it “may” not all be bad haha.
My office is all singleton duties so we will be operating differently than the urban / city duties.
I don’t want to jinx things as it’s way too early to speculate…. but i’m going to anyway with a long shot.
The example i posted if for x amount of duties (the stupidly big ones that never clear). Now, this re sign will work by seniority, the senior guys all have reasonable duties and will probably want to stay on them so will naturally pick them. This leaves x amount of stupidly large rounds that the newbies are currently doing anyway so ‘could’ be in with a chance with landing this new pattern. If this actually comes to fruition then it could be a bit of a win win (i say that loosely) but you get my jist.
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A2B
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Your office "should" be having a vote on a duty structure for the whole office not x amount of walks on this time and x amount on that