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kazardaimenu
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Re: Resign

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Perseus wrote:
18 May 2025, 12:22
A2B wrote:
18 May 2025, 12:01
One person goes off and the whole thing falls apart, going to make it even harder to get days off
One person goes sick and it will be down to 2 people to cover 4 duties, parcels only. Been happening like that all over for years.
Sounds like a nice day’s work. Much easier than doing a full round of double mail.
A2B
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Re: Resign

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yellowbelly wrote:
18 May 2025, 12:57
SMS1969 wrote:
18 May 2025, 12:51
Perseus wrote:
18 May 2025, 12:05
We've been told it will be persons A B and C covering duties 1,2,3 and 4. And so on.

Question is, what if person C doesn't drive as per their contract and they are scheduled to work a Saturday as a van assist - surely all 3 people would need to be in then? Person A doing packets on 1 and 2, with B and C doing packets on 3 and 4. Are we just going to magic another member of staff up?
Our DOM reckons the non drivers, when in on some Saturdays, will be putting d2d’s in- the words used were “tough, drive then!” for any non drivers who’ll moan. TBH a nice easy day for them,it’ll drag though.
That's if the bl**dy things have arrived...if not - then what?
We go weeks on end without any, RM won't rely on that for a Saturday workload for non drivers
Ringer21
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Re: Resign

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Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
Patmanposts
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Re: Resign

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Ringer21 wrote:
18 May 2025, 13:11
Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
In my opinion, they should either be removed completely or the price at least tripled or quadrupled. The time to prep and deliver must be negligible despite what some say. We need to be trying to claw back every second / minute if parcel / packet rates keep increasing (which they are).

As for a resign….. in our office we have 1 third of staff long timers, 1 third of staff newish (1-4 years service) and the last third consisting of vacancies and people joining and leaving, so i imagine not much changing regarding duties picked. NOTE: our office is all singleton duties.
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Re: Resign

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God this new erm system sounds so straightforward and smooth running ! So much can and will go wrong big time. Rurals i take it will be taking a bit of a burden too i hope , like the rest of us slaves ?
tramssirhc
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Re: Resign

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There will be more duties than workers. All the duties go up and get picked.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Resign

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Chelseablue wrote:
18 May 2025, 14:15
God this new erm system sounds so straightforward and smooth running ! So much can and will go wrong big time. Rurals i take it will be taking a bit of a burden too i hope , like the rest of us slaves ?
What's happening with singleton duties like rurals is still to be sorted. One of the problems with rurals is the geographical spread. It was planned to combine them on a Saturday but for some it would mean driving significant miles. Singleton duties wont be subjected to ODM which is going to cause a lot of discontent. Workers will be seeing singleton duties carry on as now, apart from Saturdays, whilst they try to deliver the core and combined duties. The CWU has no answer.

One answer is to defend and increase singleton duties, primarily for workers with contract variation such as no obligation to drive. Most workplaces are located where walking duties can be easily reinstated even if this means transporting and bags dropping for duties. Again the CWU aren't interested in doing this because it's not the plan for Martin Walsh's profit driven method.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
tramssirhc
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Re: Resign

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ted_e_bear wrote:
18 May 2025, 09:41
SMS1969 wrote:
17 May 2025, 20:48
WHEN this mess happens, 3 people will be signing up for 4 duties, so yes, there will be less duties available to sign up to.
tramssirhc wrote:
17 May 2025, 20:35
All the duties go up, all get signed for.
I wondered about that, obv you can sign for a singleton, and as it is now you sort of sign for a duty if it's p&l despite it being a pair of duties but under the new system you'd be signing for a set of four duties along with two other people, or would they eventually class it as three people signing for one duty and you deliver half of it alternate days/half alternate days parcels etc.
Notices are up in workplaces stating all duties will go up and be signed for. There will be more duties than workers.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Resign

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Ringer21 wrote:
18 May 2025, 13:11
Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
The ODM is requiring workers to deliver all unaddressed mail either over two days or three days.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Resign

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Ringer21 wrote:
18 May 2025, 13:11
Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
What they should be doing is instead of axing them, force the firms sending them to make them machine sortable, with a proper address but no addressee name. We could then run them through the machines, with the possibly the CSS extracting any DPs who have an active opt-out. They could perhaps have the DTS release say 20% each day. That's got to make it easier to work with them in the DOs
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Resign

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:52
Ringer21 wrote:
18 May 2025, 13:11
Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
What they should be doing is instead of axing them, force the firms sending them to make them machine sortable, with a proper address but no addressee name. We could then run them through the machines, with the possibly the CSS extracting any DPs who have an active opt-out. They could perhaps have the DTS release say 20% each day. That's got to make it easier to work with them in the DOs
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Resign

Post by ted_e_bear »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:52
Ringer21 wrote:
18 May 2025, 13:11
Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
What they should be doing is instead of axing them, force the firms sending them to make them machine sortable, with a proper address but no addressee name. We could then run them through the machines, with the possibly the CSS extracting any DPs who have an active opt-out. They could perhaps have the DTS release say 20% each day. That's got to make it easier to work with them in the DOs
You're not paying attention are you, the plan is to only deliver mail 5 times per fortnight so releasing 20% per day won't really fit.
Sean06
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Re: Resign

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tramssirhc wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:36
Chelseablue wrote:
18 May 2025, 14:15
God this new erm system sounds so straightforward and smooth running ! So much can and will go wrong big time. Rurals i take it will be taking a bit of a burden too i hope , like the rest of us slaves ?
What's happening with singleton duties like rurals is still to be sorted. One of the problems with rurals is the geographical spread. It was planned to combine them on a Saturday but for some it would mean driving significant miles. Singleton duties wont be subjected to ODM which is going to cause a lot of discontent. Workers will be seeing singleton duties carry on as now, apart from Saturdays, whilst they try to deliver the core and combined duties. The CWU has no answer.

One answer is to defend and increase singleton duties, primarily for workers with contract variation such as no obligation to drive. Most workplaces are located where walking duties can be easily reinstated even if this means transporting and bags dropping for duties. Again the CWU aren't interested in doing this because it's not the plan for Martin Walsh's profit driven method.
Get the pwrfc on to it they will have it sorted in no time.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Resign

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ted_e_bear wrote:
18 May 2025, 16:52
SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:52
Ringer21 wrote:
18 May 2025, 13:11
Rumour last week in our office that leaflets are being removed from next year I find that hard to believe.
What they should be doing is instead of axing them, force the firms sending them to make them machine sortable, with a proper address but no addressee name. We could then run them through the machines, with the possibly the CSS extracting any DPs who have an active opt-out. They could perhaps have the DTS release say 20% each day. That's got to make it easier to work with them in the DOs
You're not paying attention are you, the plan is to only deliver mail 5 times per fortnight so releasing 20% per day won't really fit.
As it stands there are NO changes to the way the DTS works.
tramssirhc
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Re: Resign

Post by tramssirhc »

Sean06 wrote:
18 May 2025, 17:08
tramssirhc wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:36
Chelseablue wrote:
18 May 2025, 14:15
God this new erm system sounds so straightforward and smooth running ! So much can and will go wrong big time. Rurals i take it will be taking a bit of a burden too i hope , like the rest of us slaves ?
What's happening with singleton duties like rurals is still to be sorted. One of the problems with rurals is the geographical spread. It was planned to combine them on a Saturday but for some it would mean driving significant miles. Singleton duties wont be subjected to ODM which is going to cause a lot of discontent. Workers will be seeing singleton duties carry on as now, apart from Saturdays, whilst they try to deliver the core and combined duties. The CWU has no answer.

One answer is to defend and increase singleton duties, primarily for workers with contract variation such as no obligation to drive. Most workplaces are located where walking duties can be easily reinstated even if this means transporting and bags dropping for duties. Again the CWU aren't interested in doing this because it's not the plan for Martin Walsh's profit driven method.
Get the pwrfc on to it they will have it sorted in no time.
What's your beloved CWU doing about it?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren