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How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat

Do you agree with the deal?

Poll ended at 28 Apr 2023, 12:30

Yes
249
24%
No
788
76%
 
Total votes: 1037

needadvice
MDEC
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by needadvice »

k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:50
sindba wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:45
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:36
What a militant feminist you are you could not do half I have done crawl back in your hole!
Pathetic.
Don't like the deal come up with a better one!
How about you respect people's right to reject what they deem to be unfit and leave the propaganda out of it and stop trying to attack good honest people when they just want to defend their rights. I agree with your post that you deleted by the way
k979aaa
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Gender: Male
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by k979aaa »

needadvice wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:55
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:50
sindba wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:45
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:36
What a militant feminist you are you could not do half I have done crawl back in your hole!
Pathetic.
Don't like the deal come up with a better one!
How about you respect people's right to reject what they deem to be unfit and leave the propaganda out of it and stop trying to attack good honest people when they just want to defend their rights
The context would be nice but here it you called me a snowflake and you can get a better deal I asked you and this is why we are here you are a militant and your not a man so if you edit posts I will counteract those posts here three months I see. Says it all
needadvice
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by needadvice »

k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 17:00
needadvice wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:55
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:50
sindba wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:45
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:36
What a militant feminist you are you could not do half I have done crawl back in your hole!
Pathetic.
Don't like the deal come up with a better one!
How about you respect people's right to reject what they deem to be unfit and leave the propaganda out of it and stop trying to attack good honest people when they just want to defend their rights
The context would be nice but here it you called me a snowflake and you can get a better deal I asked you and this is why we are here you are a militant and your not a man so if you edit posts I will counteract those posts here three months I see. Says it all
You made over 12,000 posts on here. Troll vibes. That's just sad tbh. Have a good weekend. Maybe get a hobby? Stamp collecting perhaps
sindba
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Gender: Male

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by sindba »

k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:50
sindba wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:45
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:36
What a militant feminist you are you could not do half I have done crawl back in your hole!
Pathetic.
Don't like the deal come up with a better one!
I was talking about your needless insult, not the deal debate.

Be better.
derricksmyth
Posts: 353
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Gender: Male

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by derricksmyth »

k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:50
sindba wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:45
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 16:36
What a militant feminist you are you could not do half I have done crawl back in your hole!
Pathetic.
Don't like the deal come up with a better one!
I probably would consider the £1500 together with the 6% now and 2% next year , but not tampering with the sick policy. Unfortunately that won't happen and will be voting no!
Foxel
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by Foxel »

Still at 78% despite all the hard work by today's serial posters. :hmmmm
I'm turning purple!
milly
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1246
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by milly »

Foxel wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 22:57
Still at 78% despite all the hard work by today's serial posters. :hmmmm
To quote Dorset Plodder "If you're on about the straw poll on RMC do you really think anyone pays any attention to it?"

Looks like the poll is irrelevant according to some on here.
Foxel
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by Foxel »

milly wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 23:18
Foxel wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 22:57
Still at 78% despite all the hard work by today's serial posters. :hmmmm
To quote Dorset Plodder "If you're on about the straw poll on RMC do you really think anyone pays any attention to it?"

Looks like the poll is irrelevant according to some on here.
The only thing these results tell me is that most of the people who use this website favour a no vote.

The majority of the people on this website probably come from very similar psycho- & demo-graphic. The majority work delivery, are of a certain age, motivated enough to join and so on. When we add staff from other areas, the old workers who wouldn't dream of coming on here (generalising but still I work with plenty that and just waiting for the opportunity to leave), and apathetic groups, then the results could really be anything.

But still, it is fun watching K9 work so hard and not convince anyone.
I'm turning purple!
k979aaa
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Location: THE NORTH

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by k979aaa »

Foxel wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 23:31
milly wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 23:18
Foxel wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 22:57
Still at 78% despite all the hard work by today's serial posters. :hmmmm
To quote Dorset Plodder "If you're on about the straw poll on RMC do you really think anyone pays any attention to it?"

Looks like the poll is irrelevant according to some on here.
The only thing these results tell me is that most of the people who use this website favour a no vote.

The majority of the people on this website probably come from very similar psycho- & demo-graphic. The majority work delivery, are of a certain age, motivated enough to join and so on. When we add staff from other areas, the old workers who wouldn't dream of coming on here (generalising but still I work with plenty that and just waiting for the opportunity to leave), and apathetic groups, then the results could really be anything.

But still, it is fun watching K9 work so hard and not convince anyone.
Not trying to convince any one least of all you thing is we all have a vote use it wisely and vote one I don't give a f**k what the result is and will never cross a picket line!
SWIM
Posts: 414
Joined: 11 Jan 2010, 20:33
Gender: Male

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by SWIM »

voting NO + leaving union. 👋
'deal of the century' - dingo
steve2zaf
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Joined: 22 Jan 2010, 16:21
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by steve2zaf »

This has to be one of the biggest sell outs in union history. Wave the white flag and then claim victory. It would sound funny if it wasn't so serious.
An awful 3 year pay deal (inc last year) with a massive attack on all our T&C . While we lost wages striking , the union could at least have given everyone a £20 food gift voucher but they are too busy fattening their bank accounts and giving Labour millions in donations. Zilch for the members.
Dave Ward on 12K a month . I have no doubt his expenses account would be even more eye watering - would probably make a politicians expenses look like a childs pocket money. This union is a disgrace only serving themselves .
I will be voting NO - then with regret I will be cancelling my subs and gaining an extra 1% pay rise.
LouBarlow
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Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by LouBarlow »

milly wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:40
LouBarlow wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:36
milly wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:21
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:29
No you don't get £500 in the back pockets it's pro rata ie how many hours you are contractually employed for and the tax man will get 33% of it the more you earn the more the tax!
Unless the £500 puts you over the threshold of £50,270 into the 40% tax bracket you don't pay any more tax than the 20% rate.
I can't understand some people's logic.
People complain about the tax on the lump sum but not on the payrise :arrrghhh .
I also can't understand the amount of Left wingers on here who sound like Tories when it comes to paying tax and national insurance :no no .
Almost as bad as posties who vote for tories…

The vote here doesn’t surprise me. I expect the actual vote to get through but it might well be close.
I can't think of anything more hypocritical than people who worship the Welfare State complaining about paying for it.
I think we have finally agreed on something. Hurrah.
milly
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1246
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by milly »

LouBarlow wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 08:16
milly wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:40
LouBarlow wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:36
milly wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:21
k979aaa wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:29
No you don't get £500 in the back pockets it's pro rata ie how many hours you are contractually employed for and the tax man will get 33% of it the more you earn the more the tax!
Unless the £500 puts you over the threshold of £50,270 into the 40% tax bracket you don't pay any more tax than the 20% rate.
I can't understand some people's logic.
People complain about the tax on the lump sum but not on the payrise :arrrghhh .
I also can't understand the amount of Left wingers on here who sound like Tories when it comes to paying tax and national insurance :no no .
Almost as bad as posties who vote for tories…

The vote here doesn’t surprise me. I expect the actual vote to get through but it might well be close.
I can't think of anything more hypocritical than people who worship the Welfare State complaining about paying for it.
I think we have finally agreed on something. Hurrah.
I'm sure we agree on many topics.
postiewhite
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Joined: 23 Jul 2013, 18:38
Gender: Male

Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by postiewhite »

I don't accept the shift in working hours. Many took this job on because the hours suited them for picking up kids at school or going to the football for 3 on a Saturday. Weekends for me are short enough, they already took away our 1 in 4 Saturday and replaced them with 1 in 6 and now they want us to work til 4pm giving it an extremely short weekend for 5 weekends in a row.

This is a huge NO from me.
ashmeister77
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Re: How are you voting on the deal? (Vote inside)

Post by ashmeister77 »

postiewhite wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 08:31
I don't accept the shift in working hours. Many took this job on because the hours suited them for picking up kids at school or going to the football for 3 on a Saturday. Weekends for me are short enough, they already took away our 1 in 4 Saturday and replaced them with 1 in 6 and now they want us to work til 4pm giving it an extremely short weekend for 5 weekends in a row.

This is a huge NO from me.
Agree 100%