Can we please put this nonsense about administration to bed. It ain't gonna happen yet. Weeks ago the RM board deliberately courted a Times reporter in to printing that 2 financial statements we're on the table . One said that if strikes continued they would be forced to make statement to the city saying that equity funds could be sold parts of the business I.e. asset stripping. The other statement said that if the union accepted transformation the statement would say RM could be viable going forward. We the CWU have accepted the latter despite accepting transformation ( see title of the agreement) by not doing any due diligence and taking the RM boards word on viability. Note: this what happens when Union leaders phone directly a Chairman of Companies on a mateys level, a chairman who hasñ a precedent for being involved in aggressive disputes ( see Willy Walsh & Willaims in the BA dispute - with Uncle red Len Macluskey ) the playback and the results are similar to our dispute.
RM would never go into administration, IDS isn't making a huge loss thanks to GLS. The subsidiary RM can make a loss but the balance sheet remains intact for IDS This Government would not allow the USO to vanish overnight. Dave Ward Chamberlain has been Czech mated it's simple as that by VESA. Share prices go up VESA owns the Company after paying for low priced stock( now has seat on the board and vote) Then RM subsidiary starts to make profit after 2025 parts of the Co is then sold off to equity firms and GLS to VESA. RM Co is then asset stripped. The Union following in fighting after poor agreement fails to galvanise workforce to enter into another dispute basically becomes ineffective. Delivery goes frameless for asset stripping purposes new Co owner reaps the reward of Selling off RM Delivery properties. Delivery then goes bust 5 years later as no requirement for letters or a USO...parcel side of company has been sold to GLS so its Goodbye Vienna...or Prague for Deliveries
Vote No.
Ward Out.
So you can GUARANTEE that RM is financially sound, can raise capital on the market and the government will step in if all else fails. This government does not care about people dying due to the crisis they created in the NHS. Do you honestly believe in your heart of hearts that they will care about undelivered letters and parcels? The government takes every opportunity to curtail union powers. There is a bill going through parliament to outlaw strikes by key infrastructure workers. It does not include RM at the moment but I'm sure the government will just add it to the list. A no vote is a massive gamble which could end up in thousands of redundancies and a shredding of the T&Cs. A yes vote will at least allow us to regroup, change tactics and fight the next battle. The CWU may well have made tactical misjudgements but a no vote will effectively see it rendered totally powerless.
Can we please put this nonsense about administration to bed. It ain't gonna happen yet. Weeks ago the RM board deliberately courted a Times reporter in to printing that 2 financial statements we're on the table . One said that if strikes continued they would be forced to make statement to the city saying that equity funds could be sold parts of the business I.e. asset stripping. The other statement said that if the union accepted transformation the statement would say RM could be viable going forward. We the CWU have accepted the latter despite accepting transformation ( see title of the agreement) by not doing any due diligence and taking the RM boards word on viability. Note: this what happens when Union leaders phone directly a Chairman of Companies on a mateys level, a chairman who hasñ a precedent for being involved in aggressive disputes ( see Willy Walsh & Willaims in the BA dispute - with Uncle red Len Macluskey ) the playback and the results are similar to our dispute.
RM would never go into administration, IDS isn't making a huge loss thanks to GLS. The subsidiary RM can make a loss but the balance sheet remains intact for IDS This Government would not allow the USO to vanish overnight. Dave Ward Chamberlain has been Czech mated it's simple as that by VESA. Share prices go up VESA owns the Company after paying for low priced stock( now has seat on the board and vote) Then RM subsidiary starts to make profit after 2025 parts of the Co is then sold off to equity firms and GLS to VESA. RM Co is then asset stripped. The Union following in fighting after poor agreement fails to galvanise workforce to enter into another dispute basically becomes ineffective. Delivery goes frameless for asset stripping purposes new Co owner reaps the reward of Selling off RM Delivery properties. Delivery then goes bust 5 years later as no requirement for letters or a USO...parcel side of company has been sold to GLS so its Goodbye Vienna...or Prague for Deliveries
Vote No.
Ward Out.
So you can GUARANTEE that RM is financially sound, can raise capital on the market and the government will step in if all else fails. This government does not care about people dying due to the crisis they created in the NHS. Do you honestly believe in your heart of hearts that they will care about undelivered letters and parcels? The government takes every opportunity to curtail union powers. There is a bill going through parliament to outlaw strikes by key infrastructure workers. It does not include RM at the moment but I'm sure the government will just add it to the list. A no vote is a massive gamble which could end up in thousands of redundancies and a shredding of the T&Cs. A yes vote will at least allow us to regroup, change tactics and fight the next battle. The CWU may well have made tactical misjudgements but a no vote will effectively see it rendered totally powerless.
This is true. There is no guarantee we won't go into administration if we reject this deal on the table. As it stands postal jobs are already being rapidly lost to A1 and Automation, and another postal strike would be viewed badly by a hostile Tory Government. We should be playing the smart game here I say. Accept the deal, regroup, change our strategies and negotiating teams for the future.
Remember job security is crucial for tens of thousands of postal workers with mortages, cars, bills and mouths to feed.This deal also enhances early retirement on medical grounds and guarantees no compulsory redundancies. It's a better deal than was on the table before, and we have forced Simon Thompson and his cronies to compromise. Plus we get £500 smackeroos in our back pockets.
Will help with the summer holidays coming up
Play the smart game and vote Yes, and regroup to fight another day
You know it makes sense.
Can we please put this nonsense about administration to bed. It ain't gonna happen yet. Weeks ago the RM board deliberately courted a Times reporter in to printing that 2 financial statements we're on the table . One said that if strikes continued they would be forced to make statement to the city saying that equity funds could be sold parts of the business I.e. asset stripping. The other statement said that if the union accepted transformation the statement would say RM could be viable going forward. We the CWU have accepted the latter despite accepting transformation ( see title of the agreement) by not doing any due diligence and taking the RM boards word on viability. Note: this what happens when Union leaders phone directly a Chairman of Companies on a mateys level, a chairman who hasñ a precedent for being involved in aggressive disputes ( see Willy Walsh & Willaims in the BA dispute - with Uncle red Len Macluskey ) the playback and the results are similar to our dispute.
RM would never go into administration, IDS isn't making a huge loss thanks to GLS. The subsidiary RM can make a loss but the balance sheet remains intact for IDS This Government would not allow the USO to vanish overnight. Dave Ward Chamberlain has been Czech mated it's simple as that by VESA. Share prices go up VESA owns the Company after paying for low priced stock( now has seat on the board and vote) Then RM subsidiary starts to make profit after 2025 parts of the Co is then sold off to equity firms and GLS to VESA. RM Co is then asset stripped. The Union following in fighting after poor agreement fails to galvanise workforce to enter into another dispute basically becomes ineffective. Delivery goes frameless for asset stripping purposes new Co owner reaps the reward of Selling off RM Delivery properties. Delivery then goes bust 5 years later as no requirement for letters or a USO...parcel side of company has been sold to GLS so its Goodbye Vienna...or Prague for Deliveries
Vote No.
Ward Out.
So you can GUARANTEE that RM is financially sound, can raise capital on the market and the government will step in if all else fails. This government does not care about people dying due to the crisis they created in the NHS. Do you honestly believe in your heart of hearts that they will care about undelivered letters and parcels? The government takes every opportunity to curtail union powers. There is a bill going through parliament to outlaw strikes by key infrastructure workers. It does not include RM at the moment but I'm sure the government will just add it to the list. A no vote is a massive gamble which could end up in thousands of redundancies and a shredding of the T&Cs. A yes vote will at least allow us to regroup, change tactics and fight the next battle. The CWU may well have made tactical misjudgements but a no vote will effectively see it rendered totally powerless.
This is true. There is no guarantee we won't go into administration if we reject this deal on the table. As it stands postal jobs are already being rapidly lost to A1 and Automation, and another postal strike would be viewed badly by a hostile Tory Government. We should be playing the smart game here I say. Accept the deal, regroup, change our strategies and negotiating teams for the future.
Remember job security is crucial for tens of thousands of postal workers with mortages, cars, bills and mouths to feed.This deal also enhances early retirement on medical grounds and guarantees no compulsory redundancies. It's a better deal than was on the table before, and we have forced Simon Thompson and his cronies to compromise. Plus we get £500 smackeroos in our back pockets.
Will help with the summer holidays coming up
Play the smart game and vote Yes, and regroup to fight another day
You know it makes sense.
It actually cuts by 18 weeks ihr on medical grounds.
No you don't get £500 in the back pockets it's pro rata ie how many hours you are contractually employed for and the tax man will get 33% of it the more you earn the more the tax!
No you don't get £500 in the back pockets it's pro rata ie how many hours you are contractually employed for and the tax man will get 33% of it the more you earn the more the tax!
No you don't get £500 in the back pockets it's pro rata ie how many hours you are contractually employed for and the tax man will get 33% of it the more you earn the more the tax!
I get the feeling some people are being Frightened into Voting Yes.... worried about there not being a job in the future .... will RM have to go into administration? .... Will the Government take over the USO and take us back into Public Ownership?
I haven't got the answers but I'll be buggered if I'm going to get Frightened into accepting a Crap deal just because we're basically being blackmailed over the decision.
Either a lot of people have got a bloody good thing going in their office, or they're unaware of how the world works outside RM, but personally I don't think this job's worth worrying about anymore. It's not as if it's a plumb job with brilliant opportunities, a great salary and fantastic pension.
ST and his cronies have totally screwed up what used to be a decent, enjoyable job, and they're trying to make it even crappier!
I do not feel under threat for voting yes. I feel FRIGHTENED about not having a job. It's OK for people who live in a populated area with lots of job vacancies.
Morals, pride and self esteem do not pay the bills. If we vote no then we must be prepared to take the consequences . I'm not prepared to do that and put my family's future at risk.
Have you ever considered following Mr Tebbits advice and getting on your bike and going where work is plentiful. I fully appreciate everyone's circumstances are different and you will vote Yes on this deal just suspect it will be quite close in terms of the vote either way
Not lost faith in the union just in management they will reap what they have sown us that is why we need an agreement but it is not the best agreement of all time!
No you don't get £500 in the back pockets it's pro rata ie how many hours you are contractually employed for and the tax man will get 33% of it the more you earn the more the tax!
Unless the £500 puts you over the threshold of £50,270 into the 40% tax bracket you don't pay any more tax than the 20% rate.
I can't understand some people's logic.
People complain about the tax on the lump sum but not on the payrise .
I also can't understand the amount of Left wingers on here who sound like Tories when it comes to paying tax and national insurance .
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