Do you think repicks will still go ahead nationally when these changes to start and finish times happen.?
The reason I'm asking is retraining for a new duty after repicks will cost RM a lot of money and considering the financial situation of the company repicks may not happen even though Major change as defined in the Way Forward Agreement does say about changes to the pipeline, although there is no mention of how much start and finish times need to change to trigger repicks. Below is the wording.
Major change is defined as:
The relocation or merger of units;
A significant process alteration arising from automated working or reshaping of the pipeline;
Delivery revisions, which involve significant re-plotting of walks or significant restructuring of attendance patterns (e.g. full-time/part-time mix, five-day weeks, ‘longs and shorts’ or ‘night plus a first delivery’, where they are agreed).
Do you think repicks will still go ahead nationally when these changes to start and finish times happen.?
Our repick will start when I come back from my holidays but our revision wasn't imposed it was agreed after we threatened to walk and there were no changes to start times or attendance patterns.
As far as I'm aware there are no plans to remove the right to a repick following major change but offices have to stand up for themselves to keep managers in check.
24 minutes per day extra, plus 30 minute flexibility sounds crap.
Why are you going to be working 24 mins a day extra
Well we would be working 24 minutes extra per day in the winter months with the seasonal variation part of the agreement
Like we work an hr extra on a Wednesday compared to a Tuesday now. How about you balance your argument with ' and then in summer we'll be working 24 mins a day LESS '. Honestly some people
This may all be true, but I’d rather have an agreement, a pay rise and a lump sum, instead of having changes rammed through anyway without them.
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The thing is Some of the changes RM wanted are contractual, and can only be changed with the consent of the Union, I belive the sick pay issue is one of those. So the company could not impose much of what they want without the CWU collusion. It is the double edged sward of Collective bargaining.
The facts are The company just cannot get what they want without union involvement and acceptance by its members. If this deal removes any of my contractual rights I will vote against it in an instant.
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This is an interesting point. I wonder where things stand legally if the union have accepted an agreement and advised people to vote for it but the vote returns a no. Is the legal point reached on collective bargaining when the union accept it or the workforce? I’m sure the membership vote is to meet the union rules and not necessarily the legal position.
"Like we work an hr extra on a Wednesday compared to a Tuesday now. How about you balance your argument with ' and then in summer we'll be working 24 mins a day LESS '. Honestly some people"
True but I don want to work 60-90 minutes later start, plus 24 minutes, plus 30 minutes flex later in the winter. In the dark and cold.
Lets hope thats changed a bit in the final agreement.
24 minutes per day extra, plus 30 minute flexibility sounds crap.
Why are you going to be working 24 mins a day extra
Well we would be working 24 minutes extra per day in the winter months with the seasonal variation part of the agreement
Like we work an hr extra on a Wednesday compared to a Tuesday now. How about you balance your argument with ' and then in summer we'll be working 24 mins a day LESS '. Honestly some people
Its not my argument. Im just answering your question. You asked it like the seasonal variation wasnt happening at all.
You could have just replied to the other poster ''thats true in the winter but we will be working 24 minutes less in the summer'' rather than acting oblivious
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
The planned strikes involve CWU members in different areas of our organisation, with each area taking strike action on different days. This means most services will only be affected on one or two of the days during the planned days of strike action that week.
Unless they were dates that were cancelled, it is hard to remember the rollercoaster.
You really think by continuing to Strike you are going to come out ahead after you have lost yet more money, pension contributions and annual leave.
Royal Mail have hardly flinched during this dispute and yet you think we can get them to cave in.
Many people on here are totally deluded.
A precedent has been set now though, RM have won, they know the appetite for striking is weak. They can bulldoze through changes now as they wish.
What happens next time they want to impose changes, the union is going to turn around and threaten strikes? RM will just sit it out again waiting for them to cave.
It's a bad outcome, and the power of the union has been weakened.
And if this is allowed to happen again, then any agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on
The planned strikes involve CWU members in different areas of our organisation, with each area taking strike action on different days. This means most services will only be affected on one or two of the days during the planned days of strike action that week.
Unless they were dates that were cancelled, it is hard to remember the rollercoaster.
The February strikes by function were challenged by RM and stopped due to CWU not able to give a definitive count of how many would be involved from each function
All the ones before that were ''everyone out together''
Pretty surprised you didnt know that tbh it was pretty big news when the Feb ones were cancelled and the reasons why
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
The February strikes by function were challenged by RM and stopped due to CWU not able to give a definitive count of how many would be involved from each function
All the ones before that were ''everyone out together''
Pretty surprised you didnt know that tbh it was pretty big news when the Feb ones were cancelled and the reasons why
Thought this was the case in November
The Communication Workers Union (CWU) has notified us they plan to call on their members who collect, sort, distribute and deliver parcels and letters to take strike action over the following six dates in November 2022:
Wednesday 2 November
Thursday 3 November
Friday 4 November
Tuesday 8 November
Wednesday 9 November
Thursday 10 November
The planned strikes involve CWU members in different areas of our organisation, with each area taking strike action on different days.
The February strikes by function were challenged by RM and stopped due to CWU not able to give a definitive count of how many would be involved from each function
All the ones before that were ''everyone out together''
Pretty surprised you didnt know that tbh it was pretty big news when the Feb ones were cancelled and the reasons why
Thought this was the case in November
The Communication Workers Union (CWU) has notified us they plan to call on their members who collect, sort, distribute and deliver parcels and letters to take strike action over the following six dates in November 2022:
Wednesday 2 November
Thursday 3 November
Friday 4 November
Tuesday 8 November
Wednesday 9 November
Thursday 10 November
The planned strikes involve CWU members in different areas of our organisation, with each area taking strike action on different days.
Those were all cancelled
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
