Negotiators agreement reached

[aiden01]

Have voted 'NO' to all the union agreements in last 8 years - will need to see details, but expect to be a no from me. Union capitulates a as per normal.

What a waste of time and money.

RM - we are in financial difficulty.

Us - We are in a worse position !

CWU - side with RM

Me - Looking elsewhere for employers who aren't complete Cnts

Surprised you still working for royal mail

Jesus wept why are you still here with all them super £20 an hr jobs out there.

[postslippete]

If by immediate, you mean over the next 3 years, after agreeing to radical changes, sure. Another one who doesn’t bother to read proposals.

It is 8% over 2 years. You have already had 2% last year.

Ok, it is still a ‘3 year deal’. One year of it we are already into, considering how long this s**t-show has been going on for. Hardly an overnight 10% raise.

The point i'm making is that there has always been money in the pot that RM are willing to give us. They were willing to do this nearly a year ago and they are still willing to do this now.

So we are not going t*ts up if we don't accept a "s**t-show" of a deal or radical changes....

And the point I’M making is that we are going to have to agree to massive compromises to get it. Royal Mail are insisting on these T&C changes to fund the pay rise, which is why it is happening over a 3 year period.

We don't have to agree to any massive compromises at all!!

They can shove their paltry little pay rise strung over 3 years up their own ar$e$

[enskied]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

Not really how much more money were you willing to lose?another £1500?
Then what kind of deal would you be looking at to get your 3k back?

AHH , you work in processing.

Nuff said

Just rem if its voted in it will be voted in by del staff as they outnumber processing by at least 3-1 so enuf crap about where people work ffs.

I remember before, when there were a lot more of you. And you shafted us for £20.

Then they culled your numbers.

But you are still the same.

[aiden01]

If by immediate, you mean over the next 3 years, after agreeing to radical changes, sure. Another one who doesn’t bother to read proposals.

It is 8% over 2 years. You have already had 2% last year.

Ok, it is still a ‘3 year deal’. One year of it we are already into, considering how long this s**t-show has been going on for. Hardly an overnight 10% raise.

The point i'm making is that there has always been money in the pot that RM are willing to give us. They were willing to do this nearly a year ago and they are still willing to do this now.

So we are not going t*ts up if we don't accept a "s**t-show" of a deal or radical changes....

And the point I’M making is that we are going to have to agree to massive compromises to get it. Royal Mail are insisting on these T&C changes to fund the pay rise, which is why it is happening over a 3 year period.

We don't have to agree to any massive compromises at all!!

They can shove their paltry little pay rise strung over 3 years up their own ar$e$

But will they need to.. no doubt it will be voted in people have had enough. unless you hav'nt realised food prices up sky/virgin up mobiles up gas/ electric up most people have lost enough plus leave taken off us.. if you think more strikes are the way forward good luck. unless you live up your parents stairs an can afford all this (not you personally) but ive had enough i will be voting yes. can't take much more.

[aiden01]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

Not really how much more money were you willing to lose?another £1500?
Then what kind of deal would you be looking at to get your 3k back?

AHH , you work in processing.

Nuff said

Just rem if its voted in it will be voted in by del staff as they outnumber processing by at least 3-1 so enuf crap about where people work ffs.

I remember before, when there were a lot more of you. And you shafted us for £20.

Then they culled your numbers.

But you are still the same.

Shafted for £20 on what?????? An del always have had more staff than processing so what is your point??

[milly]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

Not really how much more money were you willing to lose?another £1500?
Then what kind of deal would you be looking at to get your 3k back?

AHH , you work in processing.

Nuff said

Just rem if its voted in it will be voted in by del staff as they outnumber processing by at least 3-1 so enuf crap about where people work ffs.

You are quite correct, it will be Delivery Staff that make or break this deal.
I think most people have had enough of this saga.
If the deal is approved I may have to remind our more Millitant colleagues that it was you lot that voted for it .

[Grads75]

Bottom line is if the union didnt think it was good enough to vote on they would have pulled out announced more strikes so in my opinion thats what we pay our subs for trust in them if they say strike then strike if say vote yes then vote yes etc if not happy leave union

[enskied]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

Not really how much more money were you willing to lose?another £1500?
Then what kind of deal would you be looking at to get your 3k back?

AHH , you work in processing.

Nuff said

Just rem if its voted in it will be voted in by del staff as they outnumber processing by at least 3-1 so enuf crap about where people work ffs.

You are quite correct, it will be Delivery Staff that make or break this deal.
I think most people have had enough of this saga.
If the deal is approved I may have to remind our more Millitant colleagues that it was you lot that voted for it .

Get those bags on your back Milly..
Get a taste of what it's like on delivery. We don't get the chance to amble around your rural location . The onus is on us.

[postslippete]

Looked for another job, the pay is no better & the hours are worse. If your not happy take the lump sum & go get a better job but when you say I have to pick my kids up at 3oclock I think the standard response would be "not my problem"

I would be tempted to transfer into processing where you still get a nice shift allowance for working nights and the working hours still suit.


Oh wait a minute....they plan on closing a load of mail/distribution centres to make way for these parcels-hubs......

[sweepster70]

Have voted 'NO' to all the union agreements in last 8 years - will need to see details, but expect to be a no from me. Union capitulates a as per normal.

What a waste of time and money.

RM - we are in financial difficulty.

Us - We are in a worse position !

CWU - side with RM

Me - Looking elsewhere for employers who aren't complete Cnts

How can you vote no in the last 8 years, when the last time we went on strike was around 12 years ago?

[milly]

Looked for another job, the pay is no better & the hours are worse. If your not happy take the lump sum & go get a better job but when you say I have to pick my kids up at 3oclock I think the standard response would be "not my problem"

I would be tempted to transfer into processing where you still get a nice shift allowance for working nights and the working hours still suit.


Oh wait a minute....they plan on closing a load of mail/distribution centres to make way for these parcels-hubs......

Funnily enough I seen your future in Deliveries tonight, an Amazon driver going back to his depot at 7pm on a Saturday night.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Bottom line is if the union didnt think it was good enough to vote on they would have pulled out announced more strikes so in my opinion thats what we pay our subs for trust in them if they say strike then strike if say vote yes then vote yes etc if not happy leave union

Not necessarily. It’s the negotiators job to go in there and get the best deal they think is possible out of the company. Let’s see what the executive say and then ultimately we will get our say.

[postslippete]

Looked for another job, the pay is no better & the hours are worse. If your not happy take the lump sum & go get a better job but when you say I have to pick my kids up at 3oclock I think the standard response would be "not my problem"

I would be tempted to transfer into processing where you still get a nice shift allowance for working nights and the working hours still suit.


Oh wait a minute....they plan on closing a load of mail/distribution centres to make way for these parcels-hubs......

Funnily enough I seen your future in Deliveries tonight, an Amazon driver going back to his depot at 7pm on a Saturday night.

The likelihood of me doing that will be as likely as Dave Ward will be to propose to Andy Furey live on air.

[milly]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

Not really how much more money were you willing to lose?another £1500?
Then what kind of deal would you be looking at to get your 3k back?

AHH , you work in processing.

Nuff said

Just rem if its voted in it will be voted in by del staff as they outnumber processing by at least 3-1 so enuf crap about where people work ffs.

You are quite correct, it will be Delivery Staff that make or break this deal.
I think most people have had enough of this saga.
If the deal is approved I may have to remind our more Millitant colleagues that it was you lot that voted for it .

Get those bags on your back Milly..
Get a taste of what it's like on delivery. We don't get the chance to amble around your rural location . The onus is on us.

Been there, done that!
Don't you Delivery Guys shaft us Processing Guys in the Ballot!

[postieblueshirt]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

Not really how much more money were you willing to lose?another £1500?
Then what kind of deal would you be looking at to get your 3k back?

AHH , you work in processing.

Nuff said

Just rem if its voted in it will be voted in by del staff as they outnumber processing by at least 3-1 so enuf crap about where people work ffs.

You are quite correct, it will be Delivery Staff that make or break this deal.
I think most people have had enough of this saga.
If the deal is approved I may have to remind our more Millitant colleagues that it was you lot that voted for it .

Get those bags on your back Milly..
Get a taste of what it's like on delivery. We don't get the chance to amble around your rural location . The onus is on us.

Been there, done that!
Don't you Delivery Guys shaft us Processing Guys in the Ballot!

Are you not both in the same UNION I think you need to look up the meaning of the word..