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jbo5066
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Re: Resign

Post by jbo5066 »

OikOik wrote:
18 May 2025, 20:16
My DO has a about 9 non drivers so god knows how this will work when a driver goes off sick.
2 drivers, 1 non driver working 4 walks. 1 driver goes off sick. Now you have 1 driver 1 non driver to cover 4 walks.
We have about 12 - 15 non drivers - most of them are 1 non driver covering 2 hct duties, with 1 driver covering 4 hcts, 2 on one day, the other 2 the next day, and so on ...
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Resign

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yellowbelly wrote:
19 May 2025, 16:33
Looks like possible changes to me:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/post/royal-mai ... regulation

OFCOM:
Access letters obligation

Most letters sent today are ‘bulk mail’ – the letters sent by large organisations such as banks, government departments, the NHS or local authorities. These letters are sent outside of the universal service. To support competition in this market, we require Royal Mail to provide access to its letters network, meaning it must deliver letters collected by other postal operators. To realise the benefits from any reform to the USO, changes are also needed to the access obligations on Royal Mail to ensure it can operate the same alternate weekday delivery model for the vast majority of mail. Our proposals aim to enable this while continuing to support a competitive bulk mail market that meets the needs of large organisations and their customers.

Royal Mail is introducing a new access service to be delivered on alternate weekdays, which would aim to deliver letters within three weekdays (D+3) after collection from the sender. We propose to regulate this new service in the same way as we currently regulate existing access services.

We will continue to regulate the existing D+2 access service for priority bulk mail, at least while the market responds to reform.

We are also proposing to remove Saturday delivery from D+5 access services.
When any 2C or DSA item gets released ALL items for that DP are also released.
sindba
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Re: Resign

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Rurals are unlikely to change much, so if you're in an office that has them, expect them to go like hot cakes.
yellowbelly
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Re: Resign

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 May 2025, 19:33
yellowbelly wrote:
19 May 2025, 16:33
Looks like possible changes to me:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/post/royal-mai ... regulation

OFCOM:
Access letters obligation

Most letters sent today are ‘bulk mail’ – the letters sent by large organisations such as banks, government departments, the NHS or local authorities. These letters are sent outside of the universal service. To support competition in this market, we require Royal Mail to provide access to its letters network, meaning it must deliver letters collected by other postal operators. To realise the benefits from any reform to the USO, changes are also needed to the access obligations on Royal Mail to ensure it can operate the same alternate weekday delivery model for the vast majority of mail. Our proposals aim to enable this while continuing to support a competitive bulk mail market that meets the needs of large organisations and their customers.

Royal Mail is introducing a new access service to be delivered on alternate weekdays, which would aim to deliver letters within three weekdays (D+3) after collection from the sender. We propose to regulate this new service in the same way as we currently regulate existing access services.

We will continue to regulate the existing D+2 access service for priority bulk mail, at least while the market responds to reform.

We are also proposing to remove Saturday delivery from D+5 access services.
When any 2C or DSA item gets released ALL items for that DP are also released.
Well yes, but the point of the quote was that there may be changes to the DTS system. Do you accept that there may be?
tramssirhc
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Re: Resign

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Jefferson Starfish wrote:
19 May 2025, 09:00
tramssirhc wrote:
19 May 2025, 06:53
Sean06 wrote:
18 May 2025, 21:44
tramssirhc wrote:
18 May 2025, 18:55
Sean06 wrote:
18 May 2025, 17:08
tramssirhc wrote:
18 May 2025, 15:36
Chelseablue wrote:
18 May 2025, 14:15
God this new erm system sounds so straightforward and smooth running ! So much can and will go wrong big time. Rurals i take it will be taking a bit of a burden too i hope , like the rest of us slaves ?
What's happening with singleton duties like rurals is still to be sorted. One of the problems with rurals is the geographical spread. It was planned to combine them on a Saturday but for some it would mean driving significant miles. Singleton duties wont be subjected to ODM which is going to cause a lot of discontent. Workers will be seeing singleton duties carry on as now, apart from Saturdays, whilst they try to deliver the core and combined duties. The CWU has no answer.

One answer is to defend and increase singleton duties, primarily for workers with contract variation such as no obligation to drive. Most workplaces are located where walking duties can be easily reinstated even if this means transporting and bags dropping for duties. Again the CWU aren't interested in doing this because it's not the plan for Martin Walsh's profit driven method.
Get the pwrfc on to it they will have it sorted in no time.
What's your beloved CWU doing about it?
Will you ever answer the qustion what pwrfc is doing for postal workers...
When are you going to tell us what the CWU is doing for postal workers?
The CWU are nowhere near perfect, but a least they're at the table with the company negotiating on our behalf.
Where are the PWRFC? :hmmmm
Oh yes, in their bedrooms writing articles and fighting a keyboard war that most people aren't interested in and think is complete clap trap! :cuppa
It's time you woke up Chris!
Most people have woken up and are sick and tired of the CWU failing them. The CWU is not at 'the table' negotiating on the members behalf. Martin is there accepting any crumbs thrown at him.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Resign

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tramssirhc wrote:
20 May 2025, 17:04
Most people have woken up and are sick and tired of the CWU failing them. The CWU is not at 'the table' negotiating on the members behalf. Martin is there accepting any crumbs thrown at him.
And what exactly are the PWRFC doing to get a better deal? :hmmmm
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Resign

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yellowbelly wrote:
20 May 2025, 16:51
Well yes, but the point of the quote was that there may be changes to the DTS system. Do you accept that there may be?
It'll just mean that the DSA and 2C gets released more frequently. We can't tell what impact there'll be until it's known if many firms will use the new D+3 service
Patmanposts
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Re: Resign

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4 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?


MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT

37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45

35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15

30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15

Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
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Re: Resign

Post by A2B »

Patmanposts wrote:
20 May 2025, 20:16
4 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?


MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT

37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45

35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15

30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15

Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
Are you a trial office or is this in preparation for later in the year?
Patmanposts
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Re: Resign

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A2B wrote:
20 May 2025, 20:28
Patmanposts wrote:
20 May 2025, 20:16
4 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?


MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT

37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45

35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15

30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15

Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
Are you a trial office or is this in preparation for later in the year?
This is a scoping exercise to see how many people would be interested in this working pattern. All in preparation for later this year. I am not a trial office.
A2B
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Re: Resign

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Ok thanks, we will probably be shown the options the week before we start the new system :arrrghhh
ted_e_bear
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Re: Resign

Post by ted_e_bear »

Patmanposts wrote:
20 May 2025, 20:16
4 day working week HOURS example shown to my DO. I briefly mentioned that the hours for part time are more than 30 in a week…to which the response was 'it evens itself out'. Not had time to check or work it out yet however, as long as it’s no more than 120 hours per month i guess that would be ok for a 30 hour contract?


MON TUES WED THU FRI SAT

37 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 06:45. 06:45. 06:45. 06:30
37 HOURS FINISH. 15:45 15:45 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:45

35 HOURS START. 07:00 07:00 07:00. 07:00. 06:45. 07:00
35 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:30. 16:30. 16:00. 15:15

30 HOURS START. 08:00 08:00 07:45. 07:45. 07:15. 07:30
30 HOURS FINISH. 15:30 15:30 16:15. 16:15. 16:00. 15:15

Also got told today that SA’s are going…..few unhappy people after hearing that.
That's different to what it says in the ltb update on pilots that was released end of Feb, for a start all the days except Saturdays are the same length no more longs and shorts.
https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-048-25-upda ... so-pilots/
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Patmanposts
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Re: Resign

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Yes big difference. That’s why i was surprised to see the hours all over the place, like, just keep it even apart from the weekends.
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Re: Resign

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A2B wrote:
20 May 2025, 20:48
Ok thanks, we will probably be shown the options the week before we start the new system :arrrghhh
Chin up, it “may” not all be bad haha.

My office is all singleton duties so we will be operating differently than the urban / city duties.

I don’t want to jinx things as it’s way too early to speculate…. but i’m going to anyway with a long shot.

The example i posted if for x amount of duties (the stupidly big ones that never clear). Now, this re sign will work by seniority, the senior guys all have reasonable duties and will probably want to stay on them so will naturally pick them. This leaves x amount of stupidly large rounds that the newbies are currently doing anyway so ‘could’ be in with a chance with landing this new pattern. If this actually comes to fruition then it could be a bit of a win win (i say that loosely) but you get my jist.
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Re: Resign

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Your office "should" be having a vote on a duty structure for the whole office not x amount of walks on this time and x amount on that