reasons to reject the deal

[freespeech]

What is in this deal, worthy of a postal worker voting Yes?

I can't see anything. Not a single damn thing.

I see stability in voting yes, 6% is better than many others are getting.

As for the sick pay, that is still better than many other industries, and some colleagues have been known to take the micky, putting extra work on colleagues.

Regarding revisions, if a round is not achievable, then it will just fail. I for one will continue to do my best, and if extra hours are needed to compete I can do overtime to earn more money, or go home and not complete.

You can't get forced to work over your contracted hours, and at the end of the day it is not life or death if someone is dissatisfied that there mail is late.

It could be life or death if it is a NHS Appointment Letter that doesn't get delivered until after the due date for a Cancer check or Heart Condition where sometimes a days delay can make a real difference especially with how hard it is to get Appointments in general

Having real world experience of these letters they are almost always confirmation with the actual appointment also being confirmed by email, text or a call.

[greengiant]

What is in this deal, worthy of a postal worker voting Yes?

I can't see anything. Not a single damn thing.

I see stability in voting yes, 6% is better than many others are getting.

As for the sick pay, that is still better than many other industries, and some colleagues have been known to take the micky, putting extra work on colleagues.

Regarding revisions, if a round is not achievable, then it will just fail. I for one will continue to do my best, and if extra hours are needed to compete I can do overtime to earn more money, or go home and not complete.

You can't get forced to work over your contracted hours, and at the end of the day it is not life or death if someone is dissatisfied that there mail is late.

It could be life or death if it is a NHS Appointment Letter that doesn't get delivered until after the due date for a Cancer check or Heart Condition where sometimes a days delay can make a real difference especially with how hard it is to get Appointments in general

Having real world experience of these letters they are almost always confirmation with the actual appointment also being confirmed by email, text or a call.

Ive never had email / text / phone calls about consultant appointments. In my NHS area they only send consultant appointments out by letter, same goes with appointments for mri scans.

[denhamhoop]

I have never received an email or text from my Medical Practice

[DirtyHarry]

What is in this deal, worthy of a postal worker voting Yes?

I can't see anything. Not a single damn thing.

You can’t see more money and a lump sum? Have you read it?

I wasn't bothered about a paltry pay rise, or the pitiful £500 lump sum, which after tax will look even more pitiful, but I'm glad you're that easily pleased.

[DirtyHarry]

What is in this deal, worthy of a postal worker voting Yes?

I can't see anything. Not a single damn thing.

This is your own personal view, is it not?
Others might see a different view.
You are right in your own mind, others are right in their's.

And?

[DirtyHarry]

What is in this deal, worthy of a postal worker voting Yes?

I can't see anything. Not a single damn thing.

I see stability in voting yes, 6% is better than many others are getting.

As for the sick pay, that is still better than many other industries, and some colleagues have been known to take the micky, putting extra work on colleagues.

Regarding revisions, if a round is not achievable, then it will just fail. I for one will continue to do my best, and if extra hours are needed to compete I can do overtime to earn more money, or go home and not complete.

You can't get forced to work over your contracted hours, and at the end of the day it is not life or death if someone is dissatisfied that there mail is late.

Very profound.

[ted_e_bear]

What is in this deal, worthy of a postal worker voting Yes?

I can't see anything. Not a single damn thing.

You can’t see more money and a lump sum? Have you read it?

I can see that but much more importantly I can also see having to work more in the winter period which to be absolutely clear I'm dreading, just like a lot of my delivery colleagues I'm knocking on a bit now, my knees hurt,my legs hurt and my feet hurt, that aspect of the deal for me is unacceptable.

[enskied]

There is nothing attractive in this deal .
Nothing I could accept.

[steve2zaf]

The deal has to be the worst EVER - portrayed as a victory . Only a corrupt union can actually say this is a " ground breaking deal ".

[billycat]

There is a lot of angry people regarding the deal which i agree is terrible, what we all need to understand this job is no longer a job for life the days of 30 years service going forward are gone but one thing is for sure with or without a yes vote the changes are happening more strikes are a complete waste of time in my opinion so going forward if all the changes become two much for me to stomach i will offer my services elsewhere.

[Nickvilla20]

There is a lot of angry people regarding the deal which i agree is terrible, what we all need to understand this job is no longer a job for life the days of 30 years service going forward are gone but one thing is for sure with or without a yes vote the changes are happening more strikes are a complete waste of time in my opinion so going forward if all the changes become two much for me to stomach i will offer my services elsewhere.

It’s now just another private company where people might stay for a few years then move on. It’s sad it’s gone this way but it was always coming at some point.

If we vote no then we need to be prepared for an indefinite all out strike because that’s the only thing we haven’t done yet. I’m not sure how many would be I know I wouldn’t.

[X_hamster]

In all seriousness are there any reasons to accept the deal.

It will be a landslide no vote, and morally and rightfully correct

Looked at their latest video from york and the comments are swamped with no's and many valid points and queries. Not even the odd support post now

[scoobymunster]

The Union claims this is the best deal that could be had, considering what Royal Mail initially wanted. A no vote wouldn't prevent some of these changes coming in via Executive Action. Considering Royal Mail often disregarded our previous Agreements, who's to say a yes vote won't stop further EA regardless? I work the same hours every day/week. Not a hope I'm working extra this winter.

[jahbalon]

It's all changed now. Thompson is gone. A brighter future is coming for all postal workers, I can feel it in my water.

I'm voting yes and encouraging all you dissenters to see the light too, and vote yes for your brighter future, and for all your families and dependents.

Don't plunge them into any more misery, fear and want.

[redlen]

Cannot see how you even consider new sunny uplands with a new CEO on past occupants of that position.