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Letter from simple Simon

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roman
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Normally they go together years of service and age. I would say if it’s offered and it’s right for you take it.It’s normally done on a seniority basis.
wacko74
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Zero chance of any significant VR offerings in Deliveries.

Offices are already run on a less than skeleton staff level as it is, any job losses can easily be accounted for by RM not replacing natural wastage, which certainly feels like it is higher than ever before as it is.

Anyone hoping for a nice juicy VR package as a way out is deluding themselves and are going to be waiting an awfully long time.
neviboss
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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They save VR for managers who've been there for years, who are as useful as a chocolate teapot! Two years salary, thank you very much, they're then replace by kids out of uni, who are wet behind the ears, wandering around with crib sheets, trying to give you absorption when you have double mail! F*&#wits!!!!
wacko74
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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neviboss wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 09:39
They save VR for managers who've been there for years, who are as useful as a chocolate teapot! Two years salary, thank you very much, they're then replace by kids out of uni, who are wet behind the ears, wandering around with crib sheets, trying to give you absorption when you have double mail! F*&#wits!!!!
It's the same in all industries.

Whenever savings need to be made in any business it's only ever the managers who get VR whilst it never gets offered to any of the lower downs and shop-floor workers... which says a lot about just which set of employees are most essential to the running of the business in the first place.

You would think by now all these businesses might have figured out that layers and layers of middle managers, assistant managers, deputy managers etc etc, aren't actually necessary at all, but their pointless non-job roles all still seem to exist.
roman
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Like our C E O !!!!
britwrit
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Postmangit wrote: ↑
12 Sep 2022, 17:34
I found that letter rather threatening to be honest. When he says thousands of jobs could be going if the strikes carry on, then that will cost them making them all redundant???
To be honest, I didn't find it that way.

Then again, I didn't find it any way at all since I never got it. Or the one they sent last week. Or my most recent payslip. Or actually any post at all since last Wednesday....
Kenfandango
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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I assumed from the letter that the redundancies would be aimed at the "cheaper" staff. Less than 2 years and they can get rid of you for nothing, after that it's a week's pay for each year of service (or half a week per year if you started at 18.) They could drop everyone who's done 4-5 years and it would cost considerably less than a few VRs for the old guard
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Kenfandango wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 15:11
I assumed from the letter that the redundancies would be aimed at the "cheaper" staff. Less than 2 years and they can get rid of you for nothing, after that it's a week's pay for each year of service (or half a week per year if you started at 18.) They could drop everyone who's done 4-5 years and it would cost considerably less than a few VRs for the old guard
Or play the long game, keep the newer staff who are on inferior terms and are less likely to go off sick with bad backs and knees etc, and take the hit get the older expensive to run staff gone as cheaply as possible ( theres a calculator on the gov website for redundancies.
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Kenfandango wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 15:11
I assumed from the letter that the redundancies would be aimed at the "cheaper" staff.
To do that they would have to rip up the MTSF agreement.
Which is entirely possible ........
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Any idea what the letter from HR is about today? I never open them just "RTS Refused ".... but it's always nice to know what I'm Refusing! :cuppa
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 15:37
Any idea what the letter from HR is about today? I never open them just "RTS Refused ".... but it's always nice to know what I'm Refusing! :cuppa
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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wacko74 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 09:27
Zero chance of any significant VR offerings in Deliveries.

Offices are already run on a less than skeleton staff level as it is, any job losses can easily be accounted for by RM not replacing natural wastage, which certainly feels like it is higher than ever before as it is.

Anyone hoping for a nice juicy VR package as a way out is deluding themselves and are going to be waiting an awfully long time.
Yep. About 15 vacancies in my office and no plans to recruit. Also, haven’t a lot of recent contracts got an end date so they can choose not to renew them and reduce headcount that way.
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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seaside wrote: ↑
12 Sep 2022, 18:45
Lol, would you really think you would get the same deal on V.R. What is the minimum they would have to give you by law, would you still take it
Yup me too :wave
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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Why get rid of new starts with flexi contracts and Sundays built in..
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Re: Letter from simple Simon

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clashcityrocker wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 15:28
Kenfandango wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2022, 15:11
I assumed from the letter that the redundancies would be aimed at the "cheaper" staff.
To do that they would have to rip up the MTSF agreement.
Which is entirely possible ........
That's a legally binding contract.