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Union hang your heads in shame

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thefox
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by thefox »

Anyway the point i was making is if you disagreed with the unions decision to cancel i.a you had the option to not go in without comeback honesty dont know why some people are getting their knickers in a twist about those of us who chose to not go in you would think these people were paying for our lost wages...anyway im off to park in a disabled bay despite not having a disability
General Mannerheim
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by General Mannerheim »

Duran wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:49
k979aaa wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:39
I was told to come into work by my rep it is not his fault nor mine we have been on strike all these days it is not the fault of interpretation of the message but the massage itself and those who came up with the message!
Thats another thing that pisses my off. Reps doing managers job. Get rid of the ass licking rep first chance you get. Too many reps nowadays feather their own nests.
Hows it reps doing managers job?
I was informed off my Divisional Rep that the strike was off and to pass it on in our office Whatsapp thing. The manager later on started ringing round and texting people to come in,are you trying to say I should have ingored my Divisonal rep and branch when my members where already asking on the whatsapp if the strike was off? if that's arse licking what do you expect me to do, tell my members f**k all just so they can then have a day off which they wouldn't have got anyway as the managers rang people up anyway.?
No wonder some reps don't give a toss when the members come out with s**t like this.
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smartin1982
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by smartin1982 »

thefox wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:10
clashcityrocker wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:49
smartin1982 wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:29

If we’d have all done it what message do you think that would have sent ?
That we are taking unofficial industrial action sanctioned (according to you) by the CWU?
RM would have been in the courts before you could say IPS.
You are either an idiot or a troll. (Or both)
Do you always throw insults about when people dont agree with you
It’s what tends to happen when actual idiots get shut down by someone with an alternative and quite often, sensible and articulate point of view. Especially the ones who seem to think they have a god like status (read: don’t get out much)
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by Woody Guthrie »

smartin1982 wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:03
Must be a troll as I’ve disagreed with and pointed out fault with a couple of regular “kings of the forum”
No you've just made an arse of yourself.
The union negotiated with RM in good faith so that those who couldn't change genuine childcare plans at the last minute would not be punished.

It was not designed to be a green flag for a free day off for those that couldn't be arsed and would then go on to falsely pretend that it was some kind of legitimate protest.

All that your actions have achieved is that if a strike ever has to be called off at the last minute again Royal Mail will probably not be prepared to do the same again.

You saw the chance for a freebie and took it, let it lie at that because that's all it was.
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thefox
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

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Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 14:23
smartin1982 wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:03
Must be a troll as I’ve disagreed with and pointed out fault with a couple of regular “kings of the forum”
No you've just made an arse of yourself.
The union negotiated with RM in good faith so that those who couldn't change genuine childcare plans at the last minute would not be punished.

It was not designed to be a green flag for a free day off for those that couldn't be arsed and would then go on to falsely pretend that it was some kind of legitimate protest.

All that your actions have achieved is that if a strike ever has to be called off at the last minute again Royal Mail will probably not be prepared to do the same again.

You saw the chance for a freebie and took it, let it lie at that because that's all it was.
How can you say these guys are falsely pretending a protest you dont know any of them personally you dont know how strongly they feel about things you have more or less painted those guys as workshy chancers also how is it a freebie when we dont get paid for it.think thats the problem with this forum if people dont like your point of view they like to throw the insults about
smartin1982
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by smartin1982 »

Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 14:23
smartin1982 wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:03
Must be a troll as I’ve disagreed with and pointed out fault with a couple of regular “kings of the forum”
No you've just made an arse of yourself.
The union negotiated with RM in good faith so that those who couldn't change genuine childcare plans at the last minute would not be punished.

It was not designed to be a green flag for a free day off for those that couldn't be arsed and would then go on to falsely pretend that it was some kind of legitimate protest.

All that your actions have achieved is that if a strike ever has to be called off at the last minute again Royal Mail will probably not be prepared to do the same again.

You saw the chance for a freebie and took it, let it lie at that because that's all it was.
Wow.

So You now also know better than i do what I think. Is that what you’re saying? And everyone who stayed off for whatever reason just couldn’t be arsed?

I think someone else has said this already but…. Jesus.

There’s only one arse here, woody. I’d seek help for that bloated sense of self importance. Honestly .

You do understand there are other opinions other than yours?

You don’t have a fuc*kin clue about me, why I do or have done anything .

Couldn’t be arsed.. Jesus Christ.
smartin1982
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

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I am going to let this lie now though as I’m close to throwing back here due to this sparkling display of pure arrogance .

I’m actually taken aback. Enjoy your Sunday to everyone who couldn’t be arsed on Friday
aiden01
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by aiden01 »

Duran wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:16
Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 11:52
We were essentially told we could unofficially strike anyway. People ran back. That’s it
That's complete and utter garbage.
Apart from the fact that the union would completely disavow that position due to the fact that it's unlawful a strike is meant to be a statement, it is the removal of labour in order to further an industrial dispute, it is a means to an end.

By not bothering to turn up for work on Friday what statement did you make and how did it further our cause?

All you did was take a day's unpaid leave.
Well done but it doesn't make you a working class hero.
I mourned the death of my Queen. Like we all should have done, Some of you banging on that we drive round with the crown on our vans. Well the person that crown belonged to had just past away. Yet you run back to work to save a few quid. Shame on you.
She was not my queen so why would i mourn her?
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by k979aaa »

All I would say is this could have been communicated better by our union it took a hands off approach just after it's first and final communication that was ambiguous at best I did go in by the way.
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by k979aaa »

For better or worse that the Queen was or the King will be we could have Donald J Trump as president or Nigel Farage!
Duran
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by Duran »

General Mannerheim wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:33
Duran wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:49
k979aaa wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:39
I was told to come into work by my rep it is not his fault nor mine we have been on strike all these days it is not the fault of interpretation of the message but the massage itself and those who came up with the message!
Thats another thing that pisses my off. Reps doing managers job. Get rid of the ass licking rep first chance you get. Too many reps nowadays feather their own nests.
Hows it reps doing managers job?
I was informed off my Divisional Rep that the strike was off and to pass it on in our office Whatsapp thing. The manager later on started ringing round and texting people to come in,are you trying to say I should have ingored my Divisonal rep and branch when my members where already asking on the whatsapp if the strike was off? if that's arse licking what do you expect me to do, tell my members f**k all just so they can then have a day off which they wouldn't have got anyway as the managers rang people up anyway.?
No wonder some reps don't give a toss when the members come out with s**t like this.
Did you also inform them that if its too short notice for you. Agreement in place that any employees unable to attend due to short notice will face no repercussions. I can tell you for a fact managers didn’t
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by Hyrrokkin »

Duran wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:16
Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 11:52
We were essentially told we could unofficially strike anyway. People ran back. That’s it
That's complete and utter garbage.
Apart from the fact that the union would completely disavow that position due to the fact that it's unlawful a strike is meant to be a statement, it is the removal of labour in order to further an industrial dispute, it is a means to an end.

By not bothering to turn up for work on Friday what statement did you make and how did it further our cause?

All you did was take a day's unpaid leave.
Well done but it doesn't make you a working class hero.
I mourned the death of my Queen. Like we all should have done, Some of you banging on that we drive round with the crown on our vans. Well the person that crown belonged to had just past away. Yet you run back to work to save a few quid. Shame on you.
You can mourn the death of a complete stranger all you want...your choice - you were her 'subject' after all
I will do as i wish as i could not care less about the monarchy
Last edited by Hyrrokkin on 11 Sep 2022, 17:50, edited 1 time in total.
k979aaa
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by k979aaa »

Duran wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 16:19
General Mannerheim wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:33
Duran wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:49
k979aaa wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 12:39
I was told to come into work by my rep it is not his fault nor mine we have been on strike all these days it is not the fault of interpretation of the message but the massage itself and those who came up with the message!
Thats another thing that pisses my off. Reps doing managers job. Get rid of the ass licking rep first chance you get. Too many reps nowadays feather their own nests.
Hows it reps doing managers job?
I was informed off my Divisional Rep that the strike was off and to pass it on in our office Whatsapp thing. The manager later on started ringing round and texting people to come in,are you trying to say I should have ingored my Divisonal rep and branch when my members where already asking on the whatsapp if the strike was off? if that's arse licking what do you expect me to do, tell my members f**k all just so they can then have a day off which they wouldn't have got anyway as the managers rang people up anyway.?
No wonder some reps don't give a toss when the members come out with s**t like this.
Did you also inform them that if its too short notice for you. Agreement in place that any employees unable to attend due to short notice will face no repercussions. I can tell you for a fact managers didn’t
Well if your that good at doing what you say why not do it and not just talk about it on here!
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by Hyrrokkin »

smartin1982 wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 14:48
Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 14:23
smartin1982 wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 13:03
Must be a troll as I’ve disagreed with and pointed out fault with a couple of regular “kings of the forum”
No you've just made an arse of yourself.
The union negotiated with RM in good faith so that those who couldn't change genuine childcare plans at the last minute would not be punished.

It was not designed to be a green flag for a free day off for those that couldn't be arsed and would then go on to falsely pretend that it was some kind of legitimate protest.

All that your actions have achieved is that if a strike ever has to be called off at the last minute again Royal Mail will probably not be prepared to do the same again.

You saw the chance for a freebie and took it, let it lie at that because that's all it was.
Wow.

So You now also know better than i do what I think. Is that what you’re saying? And everyone who stayed off for whatever reason just couldn’t be arsed?

I think someone else has said this already but…. Jesus.

There’s only one arse here, woody. I’d seek help for that bloated sense of self importance. Honestly .

You do understand there are other opinions other than yours?

You don’t have a fuc*kin clue about me, why I do or have done anything .

Couldn’t be arsed.. Jesus Christ.
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Re: Union hang your heads in shame

Post by SpacePhoenix »

ziggypig wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2022, 14:46
3. enough people took day off anyway it seems, so hasn't allowed RM to claw back on prior disruption to service
Don't think it caused RM any disruption anyway. In MCs, earlies will have had little work to do so will have probably cleared any 2C and any DSA and Mailsort. Because the strike got called off quite late, many customers won't have known so won't have posted so much, so lates probably cleared. I know nights cleared and probably got a good chunk of 2C done.

What was it like in DOs?