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CWU Postal Executive

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world class male
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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As a p/t worker there's no chance I'll be taking part in an o/t ban as if I did that them I'd be losing around 50% of my pay,
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you took the job as p/t? so now what? rm promised you the world?
norris9
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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As a part timer I will happily strike, cut off, not do any overtime. Who would want to do any favours for the company whilst they are trying to reduce our real terms pay and our terms and conditions. This company has no respect for you. We need to fight and hope they change their ways.
gerardy
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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If there was a take over / sell off of RM how would that affect our strikes legally etc
aiden01
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

Post by aiden01 »

TopperGas wrote: ↑
02 Sep 2022, 21:32
world class male wrote: ↑
02 Sep 2022, 21:22
i know 2 d/o's are not the same but the general feeling at ours is that the odd day, or 2 next week won't effect rm's railroad, 95% clear today after an hammering,
too many backing the strikes are on more money even now with the strike days mopping up overtime, easy parcel runs after duty, and who can blame them when nothing is said to all who take overtime inc the early starts, who's to blame?
i can only think of cwu'hq for not adding "action short of strike" to the ballot papers, they knew this and were told but beforehand and they flatly refused this form of action, and quite frankly an 100% overtime ban would bring rm to it's knees where nobody loses a penny, just some don't profit from our dispute,
this coming from a 100% working class union background bloke,
the cwu must ballot again very soon for an overtime ban in nov/dec or we've lost

cwu like their social media, hammer them with an overtime ban feed
As a p/t worker there's no chance I'll be taking part in an o/t ban as if I did that them I'd be losing around 50% of my pay, whilst a f/t'er will be still getting their f/t pay. The whole IA saga is a bit of a joke, as do the general public even know we're on strike when all the backlog is cleared in a day or two.
Cannot understand how backlog is cleared my mc is absolutely rammed an i understand bristol mc is same so no doubt will be coming to your do on mon or tues maybe even wedensday..how is ft still getting there ft pay??
world class male
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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norris9 wrote: ↑
02 Sep 2022, 22:17
As a part timer I will happily strike, cut off, not do any overtime. Who would want to do any favours for the company whilst they are trying to reduce our real terms pay and our terms and conditions. This company has no respect for you. We need to fight and hope they change their ways.
this is the response we need, I've been a postie 17 yrs and way more than half of it a p/t reserve due to no f/t so totally understand the situation but you should always be ok to live on your basic pay, i know some both f/t & p/t who always have had to rely on overtime to live, right or wrong that's not the way to me, we all get the same hit on strikes %wise

official overtime ban vote needed! come on cwu, wake the feck up!
Foxel
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

Post by Foxel »

TopperGas wrote: ↑
02 Sep 2022, 21:32

As a p/t worker there's no chance I'll be taking part in an o/t ban as if I did that them I'd be losing around 50% of my pay, whilst a f/t'er will be still getting their f/t pay. The whole IA saga is a bit of a joke, as do the general public even know we're on strike when all the backlog is cleared in a day or two.
As a part-timer taking an overtime ban doesn't mean just working say 24 hours a week. You still do the full shift you are on, on any given day.
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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world class male wrote: ↑
02 Sep 2022, 22:35
this is the response we need, I've been a postie 17 yrs and way more than half of it a p/t reserve due to no f/t so totally understand the situation but you should always be ok to live on your basic pay,
How can a part timer be ok to live on their basic pay? The reason we’re striking is RM paid us a 2% pay rise when inflation is rampant and has been for months. The reality that so many full timers on here dismiss, is that part timers are shafted every which way. They earn 2/3’s (if their lucky) what a f/t earns, and everything is pro rata. Most p/t’ers needed to work overtime just to pay their bills before inflation exploded, now some on here are denigrating part timers for trying to survive. I work three days a week. Next week I will be working one. No overtime as it’s already being covered by full timers whose faces fit. Tell me how I am going to pay my rent and buy food one one days wages. Give us a break from going on about people doing overtime, concentrate on what happens when the poorest are forced to decide what is more important, their principles or their children
postieblueshirt
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

Post by postieblueshirt »

The clue is in the name with this job part time.so you shouldn't be doing this job if it's your only source of income.And I'm afraid any part time worker hoping for full time would be better looking for a full time job in another company because you won't get one with Royal Mail.
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

Post by crimson king »

I get the reasoning and rationale behind an overtime ban, but in the real world how could it work? How would you even begin to police it?

In even a medium sized DO we can't keep track of the little deals here and there orJohnny taking his car out behind his partner so he can go straight to his dental appointment later.

How would you ensure no one was doing any overtime? Union rep checking everyone's pouches before they go out? Signing them back in with a clipboard and staying behind for free to remonstrate with the docket boys upon their return?

And what about the runners belting around their duty and ghosting their overtime in their duty time? Here, is Johnny working his rest day on overtime? No, apparently he owed his mate the lino a day from a while back which he's swapped due to the lateral Equinox not being aligned with the short wave mystical cunnybunny balanced on the perstop paradigm. Ahem, erm, no, Johnny's definitely not working his day off on overtime.

It's bollocks. An overtime ban sounds great, but in practice it'd be as futile as telling people not to come in early for free. And just as impossible to monitor.

At least a picket line is clear and defined as to who crosses it and who doesn't. An overtime ban would be impossible to verify who was complying and who wasn't.
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

Post by Nickvilla20 »

crimson king wrote: ↑
03 Sep 2022, 05:31
I get the reasoning and rationale behind an overtime ban, but in the real world how could it work? How would you even begin to police it?

In even a medium sized DO we can't keep track of the little deals here and there orJohnny taking his car out behind his partner so he can go straight to his dental appointment later.

How would you ensure no one was doing any overtime? Union rep checking everyone's pouches before they go out? Signing them back in with a clipboard and staying behind for free to remonstrate with the docket boys upon their return?

And what about the runners belting around their duty and ghosting their overtime in their duty time? Here, is Johnny working his rest day on overtime? No, apparently he owed his mate the lino a day from a while back which he's swapped due to the lateral Equinox not being aligned with the short wave mystical cunnybunny balanced on the perstop paradigm. Ahem, erm, no, Johnny's definitely not working his day off on overtime.

It's bollocks. An overtime ban sounds great, but in practice it'd be as futile as telling people not to come in early for free. And just as impossible to monitor.

At least a picket line is clear and defined as to who crosses it and who doesn't. An overtime ban would be impossible to verify who was complying and who wasn't.
Your spot on there. Some units don’t even have reps so you couldn’t even police it even if you wanted to.
Mick100
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

Post by Mick100 »

Strike from Black Friday through Christmas this would have maximum effect
taurus88
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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Work to rule from Black Friday through to Christmas.
seaside
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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Has there ever been a split strike, work ie: Wednesday 6am-10am, strike from 10am-2pm and same on Thursday, so loose 1 days wage.
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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seaside wrote: ↑
03 Sep 2022, 11:56
Has there ever been a split strike, work ie: Wednesday 6am-10am, strike from 10am-2pm and same on Thursday, so loose 1 days wage.
Just when you think you can't get any dafter things said on here......... :cuppa
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Re: CWU Postal Executive

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crimson king wrote: ↑
03 Sep 2022, 05:31
I get the reasoning and rationale behind an overtime ban, but in the real world how could it work? How would you even begin to police it?

In even a medium sized DO we can't keep track of the little deals here and there orJohnny taking his car out behind his partner so he can go straight to his dental appointment later.

How would you ensure no one was doing any overtime? Union rep checking everyone's pouches before they go out? Signing them back in with a clipboard and staying behind for free to remonstrate with the docket boys upon their return?

And what about the runners belting around their duty and ghosting their overtime in their duty time? Here, is Johnny working his rest day on overtime? No, apparently he owed his mate the lino a day from a while back which he's swapped due to the lateral Equinox not being aligned with the short wave mystical cunnybunny balanced on the perstop paradigm. Ahem, erm, no, Johnny's definitely not working his day off on overtime.

It's bollocks. An overtime ban sounds great, but in practice it'd be as futile as telling people not to come in early for free. And just as impossible to monitor.

At least a picket line is clear and defined as to who crosses it and who doesn't. An overtime ban would be impossible to verify who was complying and who wasn't.
So who is the person appointed to police this? A postie? Rep (also a postie)? There are many who suggest that "someone" should do this/"someone" should do that, but firstly, in almost cases the suggester never puts THEIR name forward :cuppa and secondly, if someone does put their head above the parapet and give it a go then they're slagged off by everyone who apparently can do a better job but won't actually have the nuts to have a go. Whoever was appointed to do such a task will be as disliked as ST before the first day has passed. It will lead to many expletives being used, maybe ending in the conduct code for an unfortunate employee by a delighted manager.