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All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Hyrrokkin wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 18:12
With these 'super hubs' and PSM's in most MC's then there has to be a revision/realignment of duties.
I can see a few lower seniority MC staff getting moved to DO's.
My DO could certainly do with some extra staff like many across the country senior guys leaving en mass
Doubtful that would be needed, we'd just need less casuals. We must be getting near to 50:50 for the number of casuals v the number of posties. I reckon a few nights now we must have more casuals than posties
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by adb2aber »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 18:10
postman1979 wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 15:42
Our 2nd class oversized parcels are now sent to Atherstone to be sorted to our LAT hubs. It started on Monday / Tuesday. When the trailer returns with the parcels sorted we send them on to the hubs (cross docked). On Wednesday morning all or most of the hubs refused them only for them to be sent back to the MC to be resorted to the individual delivery offices. Talk about a complete waste of time and money.
Wouldn't put it past RM to order that the "refused" parcels get sent straight back to the hubs, as that work is technically theirs now.

What reasons did the hubs give for refusing them?
Probably that doing 2C bulks for the region wasn't in spec for their LAT duties and hadn't been resourced for. I know at ours they all came in labelled as cross-dock and got split to DO before going out.
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by 2chorizon »

adb2aber wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 07:59
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 18:10
postman1979 wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 15:42
Our 2nd class oversized parcels are now sent to Atherstone to be sorted to our LAT hubs. It started on Monday / Tuesday. When the trailer returns with the parcels sorted we send them on to the hubs (cross docked). On Wednesday morning all or most of the hubs refused them only for them to be sent back to the MC to be resorted to the individual delivery offices. Talk about a complete waste of time and money.
Wouldn't put it past RM to order that the "refused" parcels get sent straight back to the hubs, as that work is technically theirs now.

What reasons did the hubs give for refusing them?
Probably that doing 2C bulks for the region wasn't in spec for their LAT duties and hadn't been resourced for. I know at ours they all came in labelled as cross-dock and got split to DO before going out.
The hubs GO LIVE on friday (today)

They won’t be able to send them back to the MC from today.

That is what i was told when i questioned why they were not just being cross docked and shipped straight out.
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

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2chorizon wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 09:19
adb2aber wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 07:59
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 18:10
postman1979 wrote: ↑
25 Aug 2022, 15:42
Our 2nd class oversized parcels are now sent to Atherstone to be sorted to our LAT hubs. It started on Monday / Tuesday. When the trailer returns with the parcels sorted we send them on to the hubs (cross docked). On Wednesday morning all or most of the hubs refused them only for them to be sent back to the MC to be resorted to the individual delivery offices. Talk about a complete waste of time and money.
Wouldn't put it past RM to order that the "refused" parcels get sent straight back to the hubs, as that work is technically theirs now.

What reasons did the hubs give for refusing them?
Probably that doing 2C bulks for the region wasn't in spec for their LAT duties and hadn't been resourced for. I know at ours they all came in labelled as cross-dock and got split to DO before going out.
The hubs GO LIVE on friday (today)

They won’t be able to send them back to the MC from today.

That is what i was told when i questioned why they were not just being cross docked and shipped straight out.
I wonder if it's going to end up with the hubs pinching staff from DOs that aren't hubs
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by yellowbelly »

Question for MC bods, pardon my ignorance but what does 'cross docking' mean? What's it's context in
processing 'stuff'?
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

yellowbelly wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 10:25
Question for MC bods, pardon my ignorance but what does 'cross docking' mean? What's it's context in
processing 'stuff'?
It's where a york of work comes off an artic and is wheeled straight over to the loading bay for the hub or DO that it's going to. Processing staff don't have anything to do with it/don't touch it
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by Tamsk »

If cross-docking of this stuff does start (effectively) from next week, then good luck to our local hub DOs. From what I've seen the last couple of nights, about 40% of these yorks from the PSCs were labelled to the wrong hub entirely, and about another 10% had a complete mix of packets on them.

(But it's all in aid of efficiency, right?)
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

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Tamsk wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 16:25
about another 10% had a complete mix of packets on them.
Mix of stuff for and not for the hub or a mix of different streams (eg small and large, Tracked and non-Tracked)?
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Re: All 2C Large parcels to be removed from all Mail centres from Mon 22nd August by Executive Action.

Post by Steve_claret »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 16:44
Tamsk wrote: ↑
26 Aug 2022, 16:25
about another 10% had a complete mix of packets on them.
Mix of stuff for and not for the hub or a mix of different streams (eg small and large, Tracked and non-Tracked)?
Some cross docked yorks are not even for the office on the label so 100% missorts.