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Tomorrows Brief

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Re: Tomorrows Brief

Post by aiden01 »

derricksmyth wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 18:30
Frankie15 wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 18:25
You definitely aren't wrong. We got handed a letter at our gate this morning from our rep and it clearly stated only 6 at the entrance and anyone else can picket at a reasonable distance away from the official 6
We didn't get any correspondence from our Rep this morning!
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My office are having 2 official pickets one on the car park entrance and one at the entrance to the yard. Only 6 allowed per picket line but as many as we want can stand across the road.
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Our managers have told us, no WTL this week and we aren't pedalling that nonsense.
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Post by ProudhonPJ »

Details of what is and what's not permitted re. picketing, while not unimportant, seems a bit of a distraction. Those planning to work on Friday need a pretty good reason why. I haven't heard or read anything close to being a good reason. It's a strike; it's a withdrawal of labour, the most important stand a working person can take. Never, ever break a strike. Do so and show utter contempt for working people.
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Post by LaggyBand »

The six people thing:

Here is the test:

If someone wanted to cross the picket line and work, how many people maximum would be trying to talk to the person?

If your answer is six or less then the other people that are close by are fine.
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2yearpostie wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 16:14
BigSacks wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 16:05
Going with the falsehood that only 6 people are allowed on the picket line when they have already stated to managers that there is no LEGAL limit and to not challenge it.
https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... -picketing

there should be no more than 6 people outside an entrance to a workplace.


If you don’t stop picketing when told do so by police, you can be arrested.
Incorrect the GUIDE suggest 6, max the picket line, but you can have as many supporters as you want as long as they are not causing problems for the public. Indeed on the last strike, a Police Sgt visited our picket which had 30, but as it was well behaved and was not blocking access he just reminded us of our responsibilities, and then had a bbq burger.

The police will only tell you to stop picketing if you break the law, cause a disturbance, or not allow workers to cross the picket line if they want to.

I was hoping you had stopped posting stuff like this without providing documentary proof of your assertions or is it your mission to spread misinformation?

I don't have a problem if you disagree with the strike, or indeed if you intend to work, that's your right. But when you seem to be posting misinformation, or, being generous, your misunderstandings, then that is starting to be an issue.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 08:24
2yearpostie wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 16:14
BigSacks wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 16:05
Going with the falsehood that only 6 people are allowed on the picket line when they have already stated to managers that there is no LEGAL limit and to not challenge it.
https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... -picketing

there should be no more than 6 people outside an entrance to a workplace.


If you don’t stop picketing when told do so by police, you can be arrested.
Incorrect the GUIDE suggest 6, max the picket line, but you can have as many supporters as you want as long as they are not causing problems for the public. Indeed on the last strike, a Police Sgt visited our picket which had 30, but as it was well behaved and was not blocking access he just reminded us of our responsibilities, and then had a bbq burger.

The police will only tell you to stop picketing if you break the law, cause a disturbance, or not allow workers to cross the picket line if they want to.

I was hoping you had stopped posting stuff like this without providing documentary proof of your assertions or is it your mission to spread misinformation?

I don't have a problem if you disagree with the strike, or indeed if you intend to work, that's your right. But when you seem to be posting misinformation, or, being generous, your misunderstandings, then that is starting to be an issue.
I have included the link from which I lifted an element of the text, so I have included documentary proof have I not?
This is going to be an ugly battle and I dont want fellow postie getting nicked even if I dont agree with striking.
As my posts have to be agreed with by a mod before they are published someone in the team must be ok with my posts?
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So we’re allowed to set up a BBQ on the picket? Nice
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2yearpostie wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 13:13

I have included the link from which I lifted an element of the text, so I have included documentary proof have I not?
This is going to be an ugly battle and I dont want fellow postie getting nicked even if I dont agree with striking.
As my posts have to be agreed with by a mod before they are published someone in the team must be ok with my posts?
No all you proved was your misunderstanding.

As far as I know, I am the only mod approving your posts and I do so on a post-by-post basis. If I can challenge misinformation from you I will approve it so that I can challenge it.

But if in my opinion if you post something that I think is just to antagonise or troll the board I will refuse it.

You can disagree with anyone you want even me and POSTMAN, but you cannot disrupt the forums by posting obviously false information or post anything that is designed to upset others. It's in the rules.

If you behave eventually you will be let off the naughty step and allowed to post along with everyone else.
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2yearpostie wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 13:13

I have included the link from which I lifted an element of the text, so I have included documentary proof have I not?
This is going to be an ugly battle and I dont want fellow postie getting nicked even if I dont agree with striking.
As my posts have to be agreed with by a mod before they are published someone in the team must be ok with my posts?
You've been selective in your extract, firstly it's a 'Code of Practice' not the law. Try reading section C which relates
to the law, the six pickets guidance is not mentioned there as IT'S NOT THE LAW.

And you selectively missed out the word 'usually' as in
usually there should be no more than 6 people outside an entrance to a workplace.
in the GUIDANCE.

I know you won't get chance to read this during the day as you're probably busy delivering, but when you've finished have a look.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 08:23
2yearpostie wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 13:13

I have included the link from which I lifted an element of the text, so I have included documentary proof have I not?
This is going to be an ugly battle and I dont want fellow postie getting nicked even if I dont agree with striking.
As my posts have to be agreed with by a mod before they are published someone in the team must be ok with my posts?
No all you proved was your misunderstanding.

As far as I know, I am the only mod approving your posts and I do so on a post-by-post basis. If I can challenge misinformation from you I will approve it so that I can challenge it.

But if in my opinion if you post something that I think is just to antagonise or troll the board I will refuse it.

You can disagree with anyone you want even me and POSTMAN, but you cannot disrupt the forums by posting obviously false information or post anything that is designed to upset others. It's in the rules.

If you behave eventually you will be let off the naughty step and allowed to post along with everyone else.
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