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When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
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Ad_bee
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
At least we have a super-reflective and cool sunhat.
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
I know it's easier said than done but just do what you think is safe. There is nothing more important than your health. Especially farmfoods leaflets
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
Just cut off phone the manager once so you attempted to make contact the rest is history don't kill yourself for Royal Mail!
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
What's the betting the old folks homes still have the heating on tomorrow?
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POSTMAN
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
Communication Workers Union
Dave Joyce National Health & Safety Officer
150 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1RX
Tel: 020 8971 7365/7308 E-Mail: djoyce@cwu.org
17 July 2022
IMPORTANT
To All ASRs – Special Attention
Dear Colleagues,
RE: Severe Heat – Met Office Red Weather Warning 18-19 July 2022 – Royal Mail Group Message To All
Managers/PiCs from Ricky McAulay RM Operations Development Director and Phil Graham RMG Interim
Safety Director:
I would firstly refer you all to the contents of LTBs 308/22, 306/22, 305/22 226/22 and 213/22.
Consultation discussions have been taking place with Royal Mail Group on Friday, Saturday and Sunday regarding the
current heat wave red warning from the UK Met Office and the implications for the Royal Mail Group workforce as a
whole indoor and outdoor but for the outdoor workforce in particular who will be most affected.
A communication has now been issued by Royal Mail Group Directors on the imminent Met Office “Red Weather
Warning” and implementation of the ‘Severe Weather Risk Assessment’ (SWRA) process. A copy of the communication
is attached for your urgent and priority attention.
This communication sets out the businesses’ approach to dealing with the Red Warning heat wave situation and gives
a clear national steer to managers /PiCs with full the CWU ASR/WSR involvement locally.
When temperatures reach the Met Office ‘Red level Warning’ temperature limit of 35C or 95F, all outdoor work will
stop at that point and everyone must be back at the Office.
When ‘Amber level Warnings’ are in place, the SWRA local risk assessment is to be made and decisions on delivery
adjustments decided upon locally.
As an example, a lot of Delivery Offices will be going out 2 hours earlier and finishing at mid-day. Other example
possible adjustments are; reducing weight, reducing delivery spans and cutting off, reducing/limiting walking
distances, using vans with mico-loops, shortening delivery walks/rounds etc, etc – to be decided on locally in
consultation with CWU Reps.
Some areas are effected more than others and the Manager/PiC needs to check the Met Office Website which
indicates the geographic area where the Red Warning is in place. The Website also gives hourly temperature
situations and up to date information on any changing warnings levels, temperature and affected areas. An
hour by hour forecast is given as temperatures get worse as the day goes on, in later afternoon.
Personal Judgement and if Unwell due to the Heat Return To The Office
The communication instructs Managers to make sure they work with their staff and CWU Safety Reps in periods
of high temperatures and to allow staff to make personal judgements throughout the day and return to the
office if at any time they feel unwell due to the heat and intense sunlight.
“Severe Weather Risk Assessment” (SWRA)
The SWRA is to be completed daily with ASR/WSR involvement. Managers must carry out a Severe Risk
Assessment (SWRA) in consultation with the CWU ASR to assess the controls required for the conditions the
workforce are experiencing and where the heat, temperature and the periods of sun exposure have increased
significantly as at present, take appropriate action to mitigate any risks.
Vulnerable Workers and Pregnant Workers
Vulnerable workers with underlying health issues and pregnant workers are to be individually risk assessed to
ensure their health and wellbeing is protected.
“Stay Safe in the Sun”
For outdoor delivery and collection CWU members it is vitally important to remember that working outdoors in
hot sunny weather poses health risks such as sunlight/UV ray exposure, dehydration, heat exhaustion and heat
stroke. Managers have been reminded to convey the key “Stay Safe in the Sun” messages and guidance to the
workforce.
CWU ASR/WSR involvement and consultation
Full CWU ASR/WSR involvement and consultation is part of the SWRA process. The Manager must consult the
CWU ASR/WSR on the assessment and controls as set out in the assessment process and take account of the
ASR/WSR input. The red weather warning communication re-emphasises the CWU ASR/WSR involvement.
ASR/WSR ACTION:
Ø Ensure all Units carry out daily Severe Weather Risk Assessments during the heatwave in
consultation with the ASR/WSR and that appropriate fit for purpose risk control actions are
taken.
Ø Any non-compliance by Unit managers should be progressed by the ASR via the nationally
agreed Health and Safety Disputes/Escalations process as set out in RMG SHE Standard 5.1.
Ø Convey the ‘Sun Safety’ messages to members repeatedly – Cover Up/Keep the dangerous
sun off your skin. Use Sunscreen/sunblock on any exposed skin and avoid sunburn which can
lead to skin cancer. Take extra breaks in the shade. Drink plenty of water throughout the day
to stay hydrated. Sunburn and Dehydration are dangerous.
Attachments:
Ø Message from Ricky McAulay and Phil Graham - red weather warning 16.07.22
Ø RMG SHE Huddle FY22 022 ‘Sun Safety
Note: Parcelforce and RMP&FS versions of the communication are also being issued to reinforce the message
and they will be circulated in due course.
Regards and Best Wishes.
Yours sincerely
DJ
Dave Joyce National Health & Safety Officer
150 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1RX
Tel: 020 8971 7365/7308 E-Mail: djoyce@cwu.org
17 July 2022
IMPORTANT
To All ASRs – Special Attention
Dear Colleagues,
RE: Severe Heat – Met Office Red Weather Warning 18-19 July 2022 – Royal Mail Group Message To All
Managers/PiCs from Ricky McAulay RM Operations Development Director and Phil Graham RMG Interim
Safety Director:
I would firstly refer you all to the contents of LTBs 308/22, 306/22, 305/22 226/22 and 213/22.
Consultation discussions have been taking place with Royal Mail Group on Friday, Saturday and Sunday regarding the
current heat wave red warning from the UK Met Office and the implications for the Royal Mail Group workforce as a
whole indoor and outdoor but for the outdoor workforce in particular who will be most affected.
A communication has now been issued by Royal Mail Group Directors on the imminent Met Office “Red Weather
Warning” and implementation of the ‘Severe Weather Risk Assessment’ (SWRA) process. A copy of the communication
is attached for your urgent and priority attention.
This communication sets out the businesses’ approach to dealing with the Red Warning heat wave situation and gives
a clear national steer to managers /PiCs with full the CWU ASR/WSR involvement locally.
When temperatures reach the Met Office ‘Red level Warning’ temperature limit of 35C or 95F, all outdoor work will
stop at that point and everyone must be back at the Office.
When ‘Amber level Warnings’ are in place, the SWRA local risk assessment is to be made and decisions on delivery
adjustments decided upon locally.
As an example, a lot of Delivery Offices will be going out 2 hours earlier and finishing at mid-day. Other example
possible adjustments are; reducing weight, reducing delivery spans and cutting off, reducing/limiting walking
distances, using vans with mico-loops, shortening delivery walks/rounds etc, etc – to be decided on locally in
consultation with CWU Reps.
Some areas are effected more than others and the Manager/PiC needs to check the Met Office Website which
indicates the geographic area where the Red Warning is in place. The Website also gives hourly temperature
situations and up to date information on any changing warnings levels, temperature and affected areas. An
hour by hour forecast is given as temperatures get worse as the day goes on, in later afternoon.
Personal Judgement and if Unwell due to the Heat Return To The Office
The communication instructs Managers to make sure they work with their staff and CWU Safety Reps in periods
of high temperatures and to allow staff to make personal judgements throughout the day and return to the
office if at any time they feel unwell due to the heat and intense sunlight.
“Severe Weather Risk Assessment” (SWRA)
The SWRA is to be completed daily with ASR/WSR involvement. Managers must carry out a Severe Risk
Assessment (SWRA) in consultation with the CWU ASR to assess the controls required for the conditions the
workforce are experiencing and where the heat, temperature and the periods of sun exposure have increased
significantly as at present, take appropriate action to mitigate any risks.
Vulnerable Workers and Pregnant Workers
Vulnerable workers with underlying health issues and pregnant workers are to be individually risk assessed to
ensure their health and wellbeing is protected.
“Stay Safe in the Sun”
For outdoor delivery and collection CWU members it is vitally important to remember that working outdoors in
hot sunny weather poses health risks such as sunlight/UV ray exposure, dehydration, heat exhaustion and heat
stroke. Managers have been reminded to convey the key “Stay Safe in the Sun” messages and guidance to the
workforce.
CWU ASR/WSR involvement and consultation
Full CWU ASR/WSR involvement and consultation is part of the SWRA process. The Manager must consult the
CWU ASR/WSR on the assessment and controls as set out in the assessment process and take account of the
ASR/WSR input. The red weather warning communication re-emphasises the CWU ASR/WSR involvement.
ASR/WSR ACTION:
Ø Ensure all Units carry out daily Severe Weather Risk Assessments during the heatwave in
consultation with the ASR/WSR and that appropriate fit for purpose risk control actions are
taken.
Ø Any non-compliance by Unit managers should be progressed by the ASR via the nationally
agreed Health and Safety Disputes/Escalations process as set out in RMG SHE Standard 5.1.
Ø Convey the ‘Sun Safety’ messages to members repeatedly – Cover Up/Keep the dangerous
sun off your skin. Use Sunscreen/sunblock on any exposed skin and avoid sunburn which can
lead to skin cancer. Take extra breaks in the shade. Drink plenty of water throughout the day
to stay hydrated. Sunburn and Dehydration are dangerous.
Attachments:
Ø Message from Ricky McAulay and Phil Graham - red weather warning 16.07.22
Ø RMG SHE Huddle FY22 022 ‘Sun Safety
Note: Parcelforce and RMP&FS versions of the communication are also being issued to reinforce the message
and they will be circulated in due course.
Regards and Best Wishes.
Yours sincerely
DJ
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
We are working with c***s...
RE:
Jenny 'Miss unfortunately Hall' Director Corporate Affairs at Royal Mail Group
where did you get this from?
Pointed out to 'miss unfortunately' that it's from Royal Mail's Severe Weather Risk Assessment Guidance
Like I said, we're working with...
RE:
Jenny 'Miss unfortunately Hall' Director Corporate Affairs at Royal Mail Group
where did you get this from?
Pointed out to 'miss unfortunately' that it's from Royal Mail's Severe Weather Risk Assessment Guidance
Like I said, we're working with...
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Wolf91
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
Jesus f***ing Christ … you couldn’t make it upPOSTMAN wrote: ↑17 Jul 2022, 17:06We are working with c***s...
RE:
Jenny 'Miss unfortunately Hall' Director Corporate Affairs at Royal Mail Group
where did you get this from?
Pointed out to 'miss unfortunately' that it's from Royal Mail's Severe Weather Risk Assessment Guidance
Like I said, we're working with...
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Foxel
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
Good luck getting back if you get Heat Stroke.
I'm turning purple!
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
Kind of mad that 34 degrees is deemed fine to be out there but 35 is not.
You have to think that no one would get in any sort of trouble for coming back early or even refusing to go out on delivery, in the hottest parts of the country.
You have to think that no one would get in any sort of trouble for coming back early or even refusing to go out on delivery, in the hottest parts of the country.
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adamanti
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
RM need to realize we are not all the same. I like the sun and heat, to a certain degree! and will probably be ok if we are allowed early start early finish. However my partner who's a few years older than me is definitely uncomfortable at anything over the 25/26 degree heat. Now we're talking about high 30s. My advice to my partner and to all posties, the moment you feel it's too much, head back to the office. Really what are they going to do, conduct code you 
. The ball is very much in our court. Extreme heat, 30plus degrees can make you feel unwell rapidly. Look after yourselves.
. The ball is very much in our court. Extreme heat, 30plus degrees can make you feel unwell rapidly. Look after yourselves.-
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement due Fri/Sat 15/16***
Ah, yes, that is what I was implying. So I think you're right, clashcityrocker. Perhaps I was hoping that such a pathetically piece of moronic ignorance wasn't appearing on this forum.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2022, 09:44I have seen this comment elsewhere.
It is classic climate change denial.
The same people often talk of the shamdemic.
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k979aaa
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
At the end of the day it is YOU and YOU ONLY WHO CAN DECIDE if you can do the job in the conditions in your location and time IT IS YOU ARE YOUR OWN HEALTH AND SAFETY OFFICER! f**k the managers it is you and your life and health or death!
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TOWER1
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
Totally agree.
My partner is a paramedic.
Flat out today.
3 heart condition cases due to heat.
She suggests I call in sick tomorrow.
I won't but will manage myself.
She and her colleagues are geared up for next few days. And worries what they will bring.
Disgusted with RM, as are her senior NHS trust bosses.
I will sing like a cherry to all tomorrow on my round. Many are already aghast we even being sent out.
Corporate manslaughter potential raised by some people.
Stay safe. And I will never forget this .
Sod the bloody e bay etc parcels.
My partner is a paramedic.
Flat out today.
3 heart condition cases due to heat.
She suggests I call in sick tomorrow.
I won't but will manage myself.
She and her colleagues are geared up for next few days. And worries what they will bring.
Disgusted with RM, as are her senior NHS trust bosses.
I will sing like a cherry to all tomorrow on my round. Many are already aghast we even being sent out.
Corporate manslaughter potential raised by some people.
Stay safe. And I will never forget this .
Sod the bloody e bay etc parcels.
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SillyBilly
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
How the hell can we tell when it hits 35 ? Not everyone has a van ?
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k979aaa
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Re: When does hot become unworkable and dangerous ? : ***Announcement made Sat 16-Page 6***
If it is too hot to work don't work it is YOUR OWN judgment the fact of the matter is health and safety being your own!SillyBilly wrote: ↑17 Jul 2022, 18:43How the hell can we tell when it hits 35 ? Not everyone has a van ?