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How long could you strike for..

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Re: How long could you strike for..

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2yearpostie wrote:
06 Jul 2022, 18:05
greengiant wrote:
05 Jul 2022, 08:41
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Jul 2022, 16:29
About an hour, (ill make it back in overtime), if the job changes to something i dont like ill be an adult and get another job somewhere else.
So people fighting for their terms and conditions aren't being adults?! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
You do realise that most companies change terms all the time and your contract isnt worth the paper its written on, most people just move elsewhere.
So keep on swapping jobs, with worsening terms and conditions, rather than fighting to protect our terms and conditions?
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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That's a race to the bottom 2yearpostie. Your choice, perhaps already made, is to take a stand, or roll over.

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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Let's strike for 1 week, do some overtime now to make up for it.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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norris9 wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 12:52
Let's strike for 1 week, do some overtime now to make up for it.
You might be able to, but I would imagine for a lot of people they need a wage - any wage - for the week. Having no wage is impossible
for some and working a day off for OT this week will not help with the bills for a full strike week, they need that money for this
week. Some people might not be able to work OT due to commitments.

It's all about creating a situation which will cause high level RM management the most earache from customers/businesses/shareholders
with the minimum pain to ourselves.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

They have probably missed a trick not including industrial action short of strike action aka work to rule as well. I know lots would have struggled to follow a work to rule but it would have made an impact even if only half the staff did it and there would be no loss of pay.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 15:36
They have probably missed a trick not including industrial action short of strike action aka work to rule as well. I know lots would have struggled to follow a work to rule but it would have made an impact even if only half the staff did it and there would be no loss of pay.
It's possible we'll be balloted for a second time over the changes Royal Mail are proposing.

I think that ballot will probably include action short of a strike. The idea with the pay ballot was to keep it simple, no pay rise, no work...
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Many in our office wouldn't have a clue how to work to rule. Non starter.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Cucumber wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 18:12
Many in our office wouldn't have a clue how to work to rule. Non starter.
Very few do.
It's complicated s**t and since they removed 318s even more difficult.

On day one somebody usually gets suspended, you end up at the gate and before you know it you're on strike anyway but it's unofficial so the branch is on your case as well as management.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 15:36
They have probably missed a trick not including industrial action short of strike action aka work to rule as well. I know lots would have struggled to follow a work to rule but it would have made an impact even if only half the staff did it and there would be no loss of pay.
Those advocating a work to rule simply don't want to strike. And that's quite understandable as you won't lose money.

But our very best way of strengthening our bargaining position and preventing the royal mail board from implementing some of these monstrous changes in our terms and conditions is the threat and possible industrial action.

What was it woody was saying about us being the ones at the back of the fight holding the jackets??
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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postslippete wrote:
08 Jul 2022, 20:36
Those advocating a work to rule simply don't want to strike. And that's quite understandable as you won't lose money.
Maybe. What I was advocating was having that in the locker as well as actual strike action, we all know the system falls apart quickly if people do their job by the book and work to time.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
08 Jul 2022, 21:26
postslippete wrote:
08 Jul 2022, 20:36
Those advocating a work to rule simply don't want to strike. And that's quite understandable as you won't lose money.
Maybe. What I was advocating was having that in the locker as well as actual strike action, we all know the system falls apart quickly if people do their job by the book and work to time.
An you will know better than me how many delivery staff actually do what your saying.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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norris9 wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 12:52
Let's strike for 1 week, do some overtime now to make up for it.
Do you think they will pay you? What a wonderful idea that would be then by the way do you play chess dominos or tossing a 2 pence coin to decide your answers?
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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People seem to prefer the idea of rolling one day strikes which I believe are likely to have very little impact onRM or its business customers.

What is the difference between going out one day per week for 6 months or going out for one week every 5 weeks?

It may have even more impact if we do the rolling strikes by function over those weeks. A full week of no collections from businesses and post offices followed by a full week of no processing in the mail centres etc.
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Re: How long could you strike for..

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Schiff wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 13:25
People seem to prefer the idea of rolling one day strikes which I believe are likely to have very little impact onRM or its business customers.

What is the difference between going out one day per week for 6 months or going out for one week every 5 weeks?

It may have even more impact if we do the rolling strikes by function over those weeks. A full week of no collections from businesses and post offices followed by a full week of no processing in the mail centres etc.
Its already tough for most of us to lose any pay by striking but most people cant afford to lose a full weeks pay from the same pay packet

Its easier to budget for losing one days pay a week over a few weeks
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next