Unite CMA ballot Results

[TopperGas]

We should all support the managers in this in my opinion. They are workers standing up for their rights against fat cat bosses, like us.

That doesn't mean we have to support them when they try to screw us over at work of course.

Haven't they all had pay rises in the £K's whilst doing a similar role they've always done, not sure what we're supposed to be supporting? Although with a bit of luck they'll strike at the same time as us and really cause RM big issues if DO's have to shut for 2 days or more each time we do on strike.

[Acca Dacca]

We should all support the managers in this in my opinion. They are workers standing up for their rights against fat cat bosses, like us.

That doesn't mean we have to support them when they try to screw us over at work of course.

Haven't they all had pay rises in the £K's whilst doing a similar role they've always done, not sure what we're supposed to be supporting? Although with a bit of luck they'll strike at the same time as us and really cause RM big issues if DO's have to shut for 2 days or more each time we do on strike.

Same month yes but would be silly to strike same days as us

[SpacePhoenix]

If they teamed u with the CWU, you could have:

Collections -> Logistics -> MC Processing -> MC Distribution -> DO Staff -> DO Mangers

I'm assuming that it was just the managers in DOs who were balloted

[POSTPERSON50]

Would somebody post a Unite CMA ballot paper example please?

I'd like to see the actual wording on the paper.

[POSTPERSON50]

Nice bit of irony, we have no choice but to cross their picket lines, and they have to conduct code anyone who doesn't cross their picket lines

Outside the gate:

Postie: "I refuse to cross a picket line"

Manager: "Thanks for your support"

Postie: "OK, I'm going home, see you next week"

Manager: "This absence will count on your sick record..."

Postie: "But I'm already on a stage 2, and this absence will trigger a stage 3, will I be OK?"

Manager: "Thanks for your support".

[Tman]

and 22 spoiled this is management and they can't tick a box properly??

Spoiling your ballot paper is a legitimate means of voting.
What do you do if you want to vote but aren't presented with an option you like?

Then don't vote, of course. Nothing legitimate (in the voting context) of writing "f*ck off" across the slip unless bumping up the "spoilt papers" count is your aim, though "spoilt papers" isn't a viable candidate.
The UK doesn't do the concept of "none of the above" when voting as voting isn't compulsory.

[crimson king]

Nice bit of irony, we have no choice but to cross their picket lines, and they have to conduct code anyone who doesn't cross their picket lines

Outside the gate:

Postie: "I refuse to cross a picket line"

Manager: "Thanks for your support"

Postie: "OK, I'm going home, see you next week"

Manager: "This absence will count on your sick record..."

Postie: "But I'm already on a stage 2, and this absence will trigger a stage 3, will I be OK?"

Manager: "Thanks for your support".

Sadly, this is bloody true it's depressing. I think the best way to not cross their picket line (not that they'll ever have one, the spineless lumps) is to have a nasty cold that day...

[kingeric]

We should all support the managers in this in my opinion. They are workers standing up for their rights against fat cat bosses, like us.

That doesn't mean we have to support them when they try to screw us over at work of course.

Haven't they all had pay rises in the £K's whilst doing a similar role they've always done, not sure what we're supposed to be supporting? Although with a bit of luck they'll strike at the same time as us and really cause RM big issues if DO's have to shut for 2 days or more each time we do on strike.

I believe their terms and conditions have been changed drastically.

We should know better than anyone that this isn't just about money.

How can we complain about the public potentially going against us and not looking at the whole picture when we look at the managers dispute as being one dimensional and purely being about money.

My DOM has said they could be moved anywhere in the country, have to work Sundays and Bank Holidays and can be forced to work overtime but only receive a day back for it and not be paid. There was more that I can't remember now but it's similar to what we are fighting.

Like it or not we're all in the same battle here. If one side wins something it is likely to help the other side. I'm closely watching the Sundays because the day I'm forced to work a Sunday is the day I leave.

[clashcityrocker]

Nice bit of irony, we have no choice but to cross their picket lines, and they have to conduct code anyone who doesn't cross their picket lines

Outside the gate:

Postie: "I refuse to cross a picket line"

Manager: "Thanks for your support"

Postie: "OK, I'm going home, see you next week"

Manager: "This absence will count on your sick record..."

Postie: "But I'm already on a stage 2, and this absence will trigger a stage 3, will I be OK?"

Manager: "Thanks for your support".

Sadly, this is bloody true it's depressing. I think the best way to not cross their picket line (not that they'll ever have one, the spineless lumps) is to have a nasty cold that day...

How would refusing to cross a picket line count as a day on your sick record?
Nonsense.

[POSTMAN]

Like it or not we're all in the same battle here.

Nah...

[Acca Dacca]

You wouldnt be paid for that day so it cant go down as sickness as sickness is paid until a certain point.

I believe, and I could be wrong, you would be marked down on the system the same as those who are striking the same as if you were participating yourself which you technically are by not crossing the picket - unpaid *industrial action

I am almost certain there will be no management strikes to worry about making that decision

[30+YEARMAN]

In all the strikes I have supported over the years I have never known the managers to support us or never cross a picket line,so I say bo..ocks to them.

[postieblueshirt]

I hear this a lot but can anyone tell me why as an employee of a private company that I need public support for my strike action? Everytime there's talk of strike there's mention of public support why who cares what the public think...

[SpacePhoenix]

My DOM has said they could be moved anywhere in the country

I started with RM in the early 2000s and without digging my contract out to look, I think there's a bit about potentially working at any RM office anywhere

[clashcityrocker]

I hear this a lot but can anyone tell me why as an employee of a private company that I need public support for my strike action?

Because we live and work in communities.

What do you think life would be like in your household if your partner and/or children didn't support your actions?
It's a bit like that.