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Accelerating our Green agenda – Moving later start times by up to 3 hours, looking at longer outdoor delivery spans. This supports our partial withdrawal from mainland air network in favour of rail/road and builds in flexibility to our pipeline to attract a better customer proposition

The Proposal

There are 2 elements:


• We propose adding up to 3 hours to the network window which will be enabled through later start times.
• Delivery Spans: we want to explore options to optimise and standardise outdoor spans across the delivery operation.
We would like to work with you to identify how later start times and longer spans could work across the operation (e.g., duty sets), including how we could accommodate personal and family commitments using our existing family friendly policies.

Reason for the proposal

We need to develop a flexible network to secure growth and jobs for future generations. This proposal helps us to build a Network for Future Generations.

Environment:

• We have a responsibility as the UK’s Universal Service Provider to lead the way on environment and sustainability. We want to reduce our reliance on domestic flights, not just because want to grow and air has limited capacity for parcels, but because we have a responsibility to reduce our carbon footprint for the environmental impact on our nation. A key strategic objective is to lead on Co2 and achieve an industry leading 50g Co2 per parcel. Air is 6x Co2 impact per York transported compared to Rail and Road.
• This proposal supports our push for a greener operation, including a potential partial withdrawal from mainland air network in favour of rail/road and builds in flexibility to our pipeline to deliver a better customer proposition.

Network for growth:

• We need to develop a flexible network to secure growth and jobs for future generations. This proposal helps us to build a Network for Future Generations.
• The parcel market is moving towards next day. In Royal Mail we are seeing Next day parcels growing at 50-60-% per year. This leads to constraints in the Airnetwork capacity. We need a pipeline solution that removes the constraints to support growth. Other UK parcel carriers do not utilise Air to connect Parcels around the UK. We need to align our pipeline design to compete for growth.
• Air is 8x the cost and 13x Quality loss per York transported compared to Rail and Road.
• We are unable to meet peak day and Q3 T24 network demand due to these constraints. Our performance in Q3 impacts on our ability to retain and grow customers. The cost of LAT delivery is higher than core and lower quality.
• We also need further enablers to plant improvement, inward Automation, network, and local distribution networks. A wider network window will support this.

Flexible and agile network:

• Options to expand Air to meet the growth challenges do not exist in the marketplace to meet our growth aspirations.
• Potential Air service costs by 2027/28 at aspirations least £40m per year, up to £0.5b over 10 years (plus expansion of Property/Screening)
• There are major supply constraints in Freight Aircraft availability.
• Road and Rail provide more flexible and agile options to increase capacity and capability across the year.
• Planning, Scheduling and Workflow all become more efficient
• Potential to reduce use of “Sprinter” van - currently used where there is insufficient time to use an HGV (which are much more environmentally friendly).
• Without an agile network we can’t compete for growth.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN wrote:
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Double negative. That says it’s not unreasonable to say you can’t deliver in the dark. I’m guessing he actually means the opposite.
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POSTMAN wrote:
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Is there a video/speech for this bit?
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c***...
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800 addresses? having to read every piece of post?
Guy is drowning in his own s**t.
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Zicomurphy wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 11:53
POSTMAN wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 11:13
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Double negative. That says it’s not unreasonable to say you can’t deliver in the dark. I’m guessing he actually means the opposite.
Yep, he's referring to his immediately preceding sentence where he refers to visibility issues and then means that those
issues 'are not so extreme that you can't deliver in the dark'. but he just mangles it all up to make it confusing.

No doubt all these managers have been on expenses paid public speaking courses in hotels at Heathrow but it erm, doesn't ummm, well erm, seem aaah, to errr, have been I'm sorry, oops money well, cough spent Team.
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So if someone needs to finish 3 hours early each day, Monday to Friday to pick the kids up, are they expected to work a Sunday to make up the hours?
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So,in theory, 6pm finishes on a Saturday night in the middle of winter,could easily be 8pm by the time you’re all sorted,had a shower etc. Absolutely knackered & straight to bed,all ready for a busy Sunday back on the coalface

This is the grim reality we are facing?
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”
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Cucumber wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 19:20
So if someone needs to finish 3 hours early each day, Monday to Friday to pick the kids up, are they expected to work a Sunday to make up the hours?
No, they'll come up with a super duper 'innovative' 'flexible' 'family friendly' working patterns which sounds good
as sound bites in press releases and videos from RM Ivory Towers but will ensure utter confusion and plummeting morale in delivery offices
around the country.
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yellowbelly wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 20:01
Cucumber wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 19:20
So if someone needs to finish 3 hours early each day, Monday to Friday to pick the kids up, are they expected to work a Sunday to make up the hours?
No, they'll come up with a super duper 'innovative' 'flexible' 'family friendly' working patterns which sounds good
as sound bites in press releases and videos from RM Ivory Towers but will ensure utter confusion and plummeting morale in delivery offices
around the country.
If someone needs to finish at 2:30pm each day to pick their children up from school no attendance pattern will work, apart from the current ones.
No amount of promises to look at circumstances of individuals etc will mean anything, staff will literally be out of a job.
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Is he going to offer to do a trial run in November at 8pm round some dodgy council estate where the police won't even go after dark when all the packs of ferrill kids are knocking about?
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Cedar_Room wrote:
24 Jun 2022, 19:33
So,in theory, 6pm finishes on a Saturday night in the middle of winter,could easily be 8pm by the time you’re all sorted,had a shower etc. Absolutely knackered & straight to bed,all ready for a busy Sunday back on the coalface

This is the grim reality we are facing?
In theory I think a lot of us will just look for another job, for most of us it's just bearable because the hours suit us and the pay's OK if boosted by o/t & SA, plus we don't have to work Saturday afternoons nor Sunday's. Even our sick pay entitlement will most likely be inferior than a shelf fillers at Tesco etc.