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Sunday working
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geordieboy123
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Sunday working
Am I right that the proposed Sunday working applies to all OPG’s in delivery?
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Sunday working
All OPGs would be considered to have it included in their shift patterngeordieboy123 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 15:47Am I right that the proposed Sunday working applies to all OPG’s in delivery?
Not all OPGs would be suitable though ( non drivers for instance )
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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qwerty2
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Re: Sunday working
Surely non drivers could go out with drivers and take a few parcels on foot
While the van goes in the other direction and meet further along or picks you up
Or probably a waste of time if you don’t know the area
While the van goes in the other direction and meet further along or picks you up
Or probably a waste of time if you don’t know the area
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geordieboy123
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Re: Sunday working
That’s my understanding too and the more popular it gets the more Sundays we’ll work.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 15:51All OPGs would be considered to have it included in their shift patterngeordieboy123 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 15:47Am I right that the proposed Sunday working applies to all OPG’s in delivery?
Not all OPGs would be suitable though ( non drivers for instance )
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twoloops
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- Location: Sheffield
Re: Sunday working
As long as the CWU & we don’t accept it none of use will be working Sundays.
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2yearpostie
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Re: Sunday working
Exective action. I think this is the one change they really want as they will get much bigger more lucrative contracts. I think the later starting/sick pay/annualising hours are where the negoition will be, but Sundays will make our contracts a rolling 2 in 7 days off.
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twoloops
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Re: Sunday working
A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
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2yearpostie
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Re: Sunday working
Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.twoloops wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:15A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
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qwerty2
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Re: Sunday working
If they do this they could rid off thousands of non drivers (including me)2yearpostie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:33Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.twoloops wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:15A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Sunday working
There would be nothing stopping you agreeing to work Sundays. Every non driver could agree to work Sundays.qwerty2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:38If they do this they could rid off thousands of non drivers (including me)2yearpostie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:33Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.twoloops wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:15A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
RM would have no work for them to do though. They couldnt say 'sign or be sacked' to a contract that included work that you arent capable of doing i.e driving to do parcels
I think ( and I could be wrong ) if they wanted to let non drivers go they could go down the redundancy route but that would cost them as most non drivers have decade+ of service since you have needed a drivers license to join RM delivery since about 2010
It'd be a lot easier for them to just have a set number of current drivers doing Sundays and watch us fight among ourselves
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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qwerty2
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Re: Sunday working
I think that was their plan to get rid of non drivers but they didn’t realise how many they are of us!Acca Dacca wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:44There would be nothing stopping you agreeing to work Sundays. Every non driver could agree to work Sundays.qwerty2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:38If they do this they could rid off thousands of non drivers (including me)2yearpostie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:33Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.twoloops wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 17:15A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)
https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
RM would have no work for them to do though. They couldnt say 'sign or be sacked' to a contract that included work that you arent capable of doing i.e driving to do parcels
I think ( and I could be wrong ) if they wanted to let non drivers go they could go down the redundancy route but that would cost them as most non drivers have decade+ of service since you have needed a drivers license to join RM delivery since about 2010
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citypostie
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Re: Sunday working
They'll probably do a list of attendances that go from decent to rubbish where rubbish will be lots of Sundays and have a pick based on seniority
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dohnut
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Re: Sunday working
Why not make the sunday duties into a 4 day week think a few people would consider this, be good to have say thur/frid/sat off.
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SCT
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Re: Sunday working
I started in November 21 on a 30-hour contract, initially Friday-Tuesday inclusive - Wednesday and Thursday off.
They then decided that they wanted more in on the heavy days so I was switched to a rolling two days off over a 7 week pattern- this meant that in 2 of the 7 weeks, no Sundays and 3 rest days on the trot.
They've now decided to try and change it again to avoid me being off every W and Th and this has led to my rest days being split, just like the full-timers.
If you went to a 4 day week it would be on the 4 days they want you, not necessarily 4 days together. You could find yourself just working one day on, one day off.......
They then decided that they wanted more in on the heavy days so I was switched to a rolling two days off over a 7 week pattern- this meant that in 2 of the 7 weeks, no Sundays and 3 rest days on the trot.
They've now decided to try and change it again to avoid me being off every W and Th and this has led to my rest days being split, just like the full-timers.
If you went to a 4 day week it would be on the 4 days they want you, not necessarily 4 days together. You could find yourself just working one day on, one day off.......
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norris9
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Re: Sunday working
I am part time.... I'd love for my hours to be split over 4 days instead of 5, essentially working full time hours, but 1 day less.
Surely a lot of Part Timers would love to work this way.
If I could do that and just go out on my own doing parcels.... I'd happily be paid the equivalent to what other courier companies pay, rather than this 'industry leading pay' RM pay.