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geordieboy123
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Sunday working

Post by geordieboy123 »

Am I right that the proposed Sunday working applies to all OPG’s in delivery?
Acca Dacca
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Re: Sunday working

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geordieboy123 wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 15:47
Am I right that the proposed Sunday working applies to all OPG’s in delivery?
All OPGs would be considered to have it included in their shift pattern

Not all OPGs would be suitable though ( non drivers for instance )
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
qwerty2
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Re: Sunday working

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Surely non drivers could go out with drivers and take a few parcels on foot
While the van goes in the other direction and meet further along or picks you up
Or probably a waste of time if you don’t know the area
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Re: Sunday working

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Acca Dacca wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 15:51
geordieboy123 wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 15:47
Am I right that the proposed Sunday working applies to all OPG’s in delivery?
All OPGs would be considered to have it included in their shift pattern

Not all OPGs would be suitable though ( non drivers for instance )
That’s my understanding too and the more popular it gets the more Sundays we’ll work.
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Re: Sunday working

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As long as the CWU & we don’t accept it none of use will be working Sundays.
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Re: Sunday working

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twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:04
As long as the CWU & we don’t accept it none of use will be working Sundays.
Exective action. I think this is the one change they really want as they will get much bigger more lucrative contracts. I think the later starting/sick pay/annualising hours are where the negoition will be, but Sundays will make our contracts a rolling 2 in 7 days off.
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Re: Sunday working

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A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)

https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
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Re: Sunday working

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twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:15
A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)

https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.
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Re: Sunday working

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2yearpostie wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:33
twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:15
A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)

https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.
If they do this they could rid off thousands of non drivers (including me)
Acca Dacca
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Re: Sunday working

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qwerty2 wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:38
2yearpostie wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:33
twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:15
A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)

https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.
If they do this they could rid off thousands of non drivers (including me)
There would be nothing stopping you agreeing to work Sundays. Every non driver could agree to work Sundays.

RM would have no work for them to do though. They couldnt say 'sign or be sacked' to a contract that included work that you arent capable of doing i.e driving to do parcels

I think ( and I could be wrong ) if they wanted to let non drivers go they could go down the redundancy route but that would cost them as most non drivers have decade+ of service since you have needed a drivers license to join RM delivery since about 2010

It'd be a lot easier for them to just have a set number of current drivers doing Sundays and watch us fight among ourselves
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: Sunday working

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Acca Dacca wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:44
qwerty2 wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:38
2yearpostie wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:33
twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 17:15
A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)

https://www.gov.uk/sunday-working
Exactly, they did the same thing at Asda over christmas, 'sign these new contracts or find another job guys' ie exective action.
If they do this they could rid off thousands of non drivers (including me)
There would be nothing stopping you agreeing to work Sundays. Every non driver could agree to work Sundays.

RM would have no work for them to do though. They couldnt say 'sign or be sacked' to a contract that included work that you arent capable of doing i.e driving to do parcels

I think ( and I could be wrong ) if they wanted to let non drivers go they could go down the redundancy route but that would cost them as most non drivers have decade+ of service since you have needed a drivers license to join RM delivery since about 2010
I think that was their plan to get rid of non drivers but they didn’t realise how many they are of us!
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Re: Sunday working

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They'll probably do a list of attendances that go from decent to rubbish where rubbish will be lots of Sundays and have a pick based on seniority
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Re: Sunday working

Post by dohnut »

Why not make the sunday duties into a 4 day week think a few people would consider this, be good to have say thur/frid/sat off.
SCT
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Re: Sunday working

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I started in November 21 on a 30-hour contract, initially Friday-Tuesday inclusive - Wednesday and Thursday off.
They then decided that they wanted more in on the heavy days so I was switched to a rolling two days off over a 7 week pattern- this meant that in 2 of the 7 weeks, no Sundays and 3 rest days on the trot.
They've now decided to try and change it again to avoid me being off every W and Th and this has led to my rest days being split, just like the full-timers.
If you went to a 4 day week it would be on the 4 days they want you, not necessarily 4 days together. You could find yourself just working one day on, one day off.......
norris9
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Re: Sunday working

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dohnut wrote:
23 Jun 2022, 19:17
Why not make the sunday duties into a 4 day week think a few people would consider this, be good to have say thur/frid/sat off.
I am part time.... I'd love for my hours to be split over 4 days instead of 5, essentially working full time hours, but 1 day less.

Surely a lot of Part Timers would love to work this way.

If I could do that and just go out on my own doing parcels.... I'd happily be paid the equivalent to what other courier companies pay, rather than this 'industry leading pay' RM pay.