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Re: Payrise

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RMG PAY AWARD 2022

I am writing to you in regard to the above with a deep frustration and a growing sense of injustice which I believe is shared by all CWU members. This is an open letter because the silence of the Board on this issue is deafening.

I wrote to Zareena Brown, Chief People Officer, on 24th February 2022. The thrust of that pay claim letter was crystal clear - to genuinely reward CWU members for all that they have done during unprecedented times and also to get in front of and protect them from the current cost of living crisis. I appreciate that we have spoken since then where I have repeated that message and urged an early response.

I have been involved in pay negotiations for many years and therefore know that the RMG Board has to clear a pay remit for you to make an offer. As far as we are concerned the RMG Board has had plenty of time to do this and yet have failed to do so.

The RMG Board’s failure to do that is quite frankly hugely disrespectful to a workforce that have surpassed themselves as key workers during the pandemic, and have served with distinction.

The trust agenda is a fundamental strand to our cultural change agenda, it is all about emotional intelligence, empathy, real connection and understanding of the needs of our brilliant workforce working at the ‘coal face’ as it were. The Board’s behaviour in this regard is extremely damaging to that agenda.

The perception and the reality is that shareholders are more important than the business’s greatest asset and ambassadors - its workforce.

CWU members played a crucial role in helping maintain the mental health of UK citizens by keeping them connected and delivering letters, packets and parcels throughout the pandemic lockdowns.

CWU members played a crucial role in maintaining the health of UK citizens and controlling the spread of the pandemic by delivering and collecting test kits.

CWU members delivered the very financial turnaround that allowed the Board to rush to afford shareholders a return and bonus worth £400 million. Yet when it comes to our members they are dragging their heels. Our members are battling the cost of living crisis now, they need and deserve a cost of living matching pay rise now.

We absolutely believe that there is a debt of honour owed to our members, they have stepped up for the last two years and now it is time for the Board to step up. Our claim is just and we are determined to ensure our members get justice in this regard.

In closing I urge you to make us a serious offer now which demonstrates that you respect all of the above and that you genuinely have pride for what our members have done.

Yours sincerely,

Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Payrise

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Thanks Terry.....

But words are cheap unlike my bills. We need to ballot now and don't fall for the delay tactics. The company has got its hands full dealing with the managers dispute we will be pushed to the back burner unless we actually grow a pair and ballot for IA now and serve notice so that the company must choose between 100,000 striking postman or 2,000 moaning spineless managers. Simon and Ricky have been plotting this for months it's the old Kansas city shuffle look left while we take away your dignity and terms and conditions.
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jessicarabbit wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 16:39
Thanks Terry.....

But words are cheap unlike my bills. We need to ballot now and don't fall for the delay tactics. The company has got its hands full dealing with the managers dispute we will be pushed to the back burner unless we actually grow a pair and ballot for IA now and serve notice so that the company must choose between 100,000 striking postman or 2,000 moaning spineless managers. Simon and Ricky have been plotting this for months it's the old Kansas city shuffle look left while we take away your dignity and terms and conditions.
:Applause

Even the Post Office has been balloted... https://www.cwu.org/news/post-office-st ... to-action/
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rogersh wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 15:55
POSTMAN wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 14:08
Ricky McAulay

Update on CWU Pay Discussions
............................................EDIT

We are aware of CWU’s expectation on the timing of pay talks and will update you as soon as possible.
I wonder if this delay is acceptable to the CWU.

Answering my own question, the update states "The Board has asked for a bit more time to consider all the factors......"
So do we assume the board has asked the CWU for a bit more time!. Faffing about!
What's ""a bit more time"? That could be anything from a month to half a year? Surely if the RM is reinventing itself it must know already what it will look like once it's been reinvented?
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Should have announced a ballot when the CWU was fobbed off at the end of February, there should be no delay in doing so now.
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Re: Payrise

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For the 2 records, LTB HERE...
LTB 153/22 – RMG Pay Award 2022

And Si is linking this for reference, in the Update on CWU Pay Discussions thread on Workplace...
RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Payrise

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POSTMAN wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 20:14
For the 2 records, LTB HERE...
LTB 153/22 – RMG Pay Award 2022

And Si is linking this for reference, in the Update on CWU Pay Discussions thread on Workplace...
RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3
That really says it all doesn't it? Basically Si feels that we're already well paid so it looks like either any payrise will be minimal, or a decent one will have major strings attached to it.
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jessicarabbit wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 16:39
Thanks Terry.....

But words are cheap unlike my bills. We need to ballot now and don't fall for the delay tactics. The company has got its hands full dealing with the managers dispute we will be pushed to the back burner unless we actually grow a pair and ballot for IA now and serve notice so that the company must choose between 100,000 striking postman or 2,000 moaning spineless managers. Simon and Ricky have been plotting this for months it's the old Kansas city shuffle look left while we take away your dignity and terms and conditions.
Too right, get the ballot out now, we're actually in a strong position just think how much RM have done recently to win/retain new/existing parcel sending customers, photos, return of signatures etc, surely the possibility they could lose this business would force some action.
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TopperGas wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 21:26
POSTMAN wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 20:14
For the 2 records, LTB HERE...
LTB 153/22 – RMG Pay Award 2022

And Si is linking this for reference, in the Update on CWU Pay Discussions thread on Workplace...
RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3
That really says it all doesn't it? Basically Si feels that we're already well paid so it looks like either any payrise will be minimal, or a decent one will have major strings attached to it.
What a world eh? Man on half a million pound a year deems posties on 400 pound a week are well paid. Remember to take your lapsing today team.
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Re: Payrise

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When are we balloting then ,surely with no proper response from royal mail and if the Union are being paid for by us to defend us why has Terry not sent a deadline or else we will be forced to strike or what is the point of the union.With minimum wage increasing maybe its time to look for something else,new starters won't join the union because they will see no point in it.
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Re: Payrise

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I would never,ever cross a picket line but I just cannot see how any sort of industrial action is going to happen.

Does Terry really have the stomach for it?

Can the membership afford it? (And yes I’m aware of the ‘can the members not afford to strike’ line)

Do you really think this horrific,corrupt,sham of a government will allow it?
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Cedar_Room wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 09:01
I would never,ever cross a picket line but I just cannot see how any sort of industrial action is going to happen.

Does Terry really have the stomach for it?

Can the membership afford it? (And yes I’m aware of the ‘can the members not afford to strike’ line)

Do you really think this horrific,corrupt,sham of a government will allow it?
They will get away with it if people keep letting them
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Re: Payrise

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So this is basically going the same way as every other pay deal it will be nearer Xmas by the time it’s resolved, I don’t know why it’s taken Terry so long to realise this , why are we not setting them a deadline to make us an offer ? It’s a disgrace considering the cost of living crisis we are all in .
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Re: Payrise

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A2B wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 13:59
Cedar_Room wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 09:01
I would never,ever cross a picket line but I just cannot see how any sort of industrial action is going to happen.

Does Terry really have the stomach for it?

Can the membership afford it? (And yes I’m aware of the ‘can the members not afford to strike’ line)

Do you really think this horrific,corrupt,sham of a government will allow it?
They will get away with it if people keep letting them
They will get away with it because of who is in charge of running the country!

The Tories could have outlawed ‘fire & rehire’ just days after the P+O ferry debacle,but they chose to abstain.

Tells you all you need to know about their feelings towards the working class. Bleak times ahead
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Re: Payrise

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POSTMAN wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 20:14
For the 2 records, LTB HERE...
LTB 153/22 – RMG Pay Award 2022

And Si is linking this for reference, in the Update on CWU Pay Discussions thread on Workplace...
RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3
If i was advising Simon id really recommend just keeping his mouth shut for a while. All this gaslighting on Workplace doesnt help anybody and for me personally- really boils my blood.