Payrise

[aiden01]

No mention of dropping to 36 or 35 hrs in the video either, wonder if they've ditched it for this year?

The union don't want the pay rise tied to anything and neither should we.

As Terry said, a one off, no strings, on time pay rise that keeps pace with inflation.

No f***ing nonsense, it's the first time he's made sense in years.

Why all the unncessary criticism directed at Terry? Every video I've ever watched him in he always makes an impassioned case for the humble postal worker on the ground, defending the USO, making an argument to grow the business through new ideas, and having reason and rationale to back up his arguments.

Most people that criticise him don't actually have the IQ to understand his position. The union is there to work with the business, not against.

Are you terry??

No just somebody who actually supports the goal the union are working towards. People who slate it just weaken the collective strength and image the union hold which means negotiating good outcomes becomes harder because a bunch of half-witted twits think they know the business better.

The goal they always miss..

[toonshola]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

We had a structural revision last October which was and still is a complete mess. Also a full re-pick to go with it. Are you saying there is a chance we will have another structural in the next year? If so what was the point in doing ours last October?
Although thinking about it maybe another full revision this time with some staff input might be the only way to fix our office….

[FirstPost]

Rogersh we have asked for a no strings pay deal as we don’t want the pay being dragged out by the further talks.

Every office is due a revision this year as part of the 3 year productivity flight path. The details of this will need further negotiations as will whether it is based on table tops or revised structural revisions.

The impact from the opening of the Warrington Parcel Hub on RDCs , Mail Centres and Delivery Offices. The Midland Hub will also open the end of 2023. The nine mail centres which border Warrington will lose circa 25% of their outward work. YDC loses significant workload as well. All mail centres will see a reduction in their inward larger parcels.

In addition there is still a debate about how the larger parcels are delivered and by who and when. As previously stated the limit of the automation in Warrington is circa 360 selections. Therefore they will be sent to circa 320 delivery offices. Therefore Royal Mail want the format 3&4 parcels to be delivered along with the LAT from the larger offices thus meaning every delivery office loses workload.

The CWU’s position is that there can be a bull ring in the Lat office which breaks down into individual postcodes and then delivery from that office. In addition we believe that the format 3&4 parcels should not be delayed to make the LAT more cost effective but delivered on the core delivery.

In addition there is the issue of Sunday and the fact that we need to ensure that we do not lose that Sunday workload whilst at the same time not making Sundays compulsory.

On time of that there will be a number of trials on a new delivery model.

These talks will all take time and so we want to get the new pay deal done separately whilst talks continue on the others.

There is a policy forum on 30th , 31st March in Liverpool and all Branch’s will receive a document containing the PE policy for these forward discussions and Branch’s will have a chance to support ,amend or add at the policy forum. This will then form the basis of our strategy in these talks.

With current inflation as of now and April's rises in living due to NI and fuel, energy etc...have the union taken any of this into consideration?

Have they thought about significant living ncreases in April, a pay rise basing a % before April isn't worth the time!!! What can you guess is a minimum Martin? 5%?

[Chelseablue]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

We had a structural revision last October which was and still is a complete mess. Also a full re-pick to go with it. Are you saying there is a chance we will have another structural in the next year? If so what was the point in doing ours last October?
Although thinking about it maybe another full revision this time with some staff input might be the only way to fix our office….

Nobody staffwise was even listened to during this so called revisions , hence the disaster . Which weve all got to deal with now.

[jessicarabbit]

Some one cleverer than me can post Terry's video response to our request for a 7% no strings pay rise.....in essence they said due to current crisis the board will not be even looking at pay til end of March and don't get your hopes up.

[Rommagic]

We asked for 7 per cent?,video on Facebook from Terry someone post on here please.

[fb1969]

Terry's update

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[Rommagic]

Thanks for the link.

[POSTMAN]

Remember peeps...

Simon 'Tel's allwight' Thompson
I never blame the CWU for anything - I find them very helpful - they always come to the table with insight & good ideas….

[rogersh]

I suppose it is sadly inevitable that an offer would not immediately be forthcoming to the request for a standalone "No Strings" pay claim.

Previously; Also described as a "standalone" pay issue for April 2020.

In August 2020 Achim Dünnwald the latest on talks with CWU;
(EDIT)“This week we have started our discussions on pay, we want to get an agreement on pay and the best way to get an agreement on pay is a change deal….”

[fb1969]

I usually criticise Terry but I'm with him on this.

The problem is that the last few pay deals and some other matters have seen the CWU bend over backwards to do what the company want. A massive vote for action was pushed to one side, hundreds of disagreements went the same way, an average holiday pay agreement that can penalise people who go on holiday so don't qualify, echoing the company statement about not prioritising Tracked when it still happens every day. Add in the average postie being more interested in when they get the back pay rather than any 'strings' and the company are holding all the cards

[jessicarabbit]

Let's be honest this will drag on through the summer ending with a ballot for IA around October. The company will throw out the ballot as illegal a reballot will happen in November for strikes at Christmas Everyone will get scared and we will all agree that a 2.5% deal with more strings than a grand piano is the best we can get and much back slapping will be done by all. Share price will go up and Christmas is saved.

Been there done that...got several of the T-shirts

[FirstPost]

Some one cleverer than me can post Terry's video response to our request for a 7% no strings pay rise.....in essence they said due to current crisis the board will not be even looking at pay til end of March and don't get your hopes up.

How do you know it was 7%?

[jessicarabbit]

The unions policy for the April Pay Rise is the following :

1. A pay rise of inflation or above.

2. 35 hour gross working week without loss to pay meaning the final 2 hours off the working week.

3. An increase in overtime rates.

4. A commitment to more 3,4 day working.

Of course no pay increase comes without strings and that is going to be the negotiation!

This was posted by Martin earlier in the post he is our man on the inside

[rogersh]

Some one cleverer than me can post Terry's video response to our request for a 7% no strings pay rise.....in essence they said due to current crisis the board will not be even looking at pay til end of March and don't get your hopes up.

How do you know it was 7%?

link here gives an estimate viewtopic.php?f=38&t=104272