Payrise

[aiden01]

Cwu have submitted pay claim today..

How many strings attached when it comes to it?

Well he did say a no strings attached deal.

[2yearpostie]

Just watched the video, I was hiding behind the couch it was so menacing.

link?

[fb1969]

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[rogersh]

As stated by Neverwasadoor, no mention of the 35 hour week in the video!
So has the policy changed from what Martin Walsh posted recently on this topic?

Edit;
"The unions policy for the April Pay Rise is the following :
.....
2. 35 hour gross working week without loss to pay meaning the final 2 hours off the working week.
....."

[SpacePhoenix]

It would seem RM are planing to have the Items Delivered ftom the LAT Offices
CWU seem to want the items Delivered from The Indervidual DO,s
Have you any idea on what time the items for your Area are due to Arrive from Warrington

We've not heard anything yet. If RM want the LAT offices delivering them, then the LAT offices will end up sending most of their vans to the MC to collect the LAT stuff. The LAT offices will need extra vans

[Hyrrokkin]

Cwu have submitted pay claim today..

How many strings attached when it comes to it?

As many as their pals at RM want - they will sell us down the river yet again

What Terry says and the CWU does are two different things...let us see what happens - i hope i am wrong...really do but past history tells us otherwise.

[19times]

Terry Bull$h!tter sell us down the river again no doubt

[greengiant]

Cwu have submitted pay claim today..

How many strings attached when it comes to it?

Well he did say a no strings attached deal.

Didn't he also say that about average holiday pay?

[aiden01]

Cwu have submitted pay claim today..

How many strings attached when it comes to it?

Well he did say a no strings attached deal.

Didn't he also say that about average holiday pay?

Not saying i believe him just quoting him.

[Pidleypoo]

With the new dawn of working from home/hybrid working the whole employment landscape is changing.
People with the ability to WFH have been given a huge virtual pay rise these last 2 years with savings they are making, and many of these people are far better insulated from the huge cost of living expenses we all are seeing.
I know it's not as simple as it sounds, but something needs done to bridge the earnings gap between traditional office staff who are now WFH vs those of us who are going to be 'left behind' in the old way of working.

What's the point in ordering items online to be delivered to you as you WFH if there is no-one to deliver them as the job becomes so poorly paid.....

I can see WFH people losing their jobs eventually.If they can do the work remotely like that then their work could be done cheaper by someone else working from home in another country

You might want to stop reading the ridiculous stuff the governments buddies in the media put out.

If these jobs could be done “cheaper” abroad , they absolutely would already be doing that and let’s not mention the effect brexit has on that.

People who do actually work from home are the ones with the choice , the higher skilled you are , the more choice you have in employment and that includes working from home , the better candidates always have more choice.

My missus wfh , is highly qualified for her job and could easily move to another if the current one wanted to change back ( they won’t , none of them do )

[POSTMAN]

WFH 'en mass' is a new thing.
The pandemic has changed things massively and firms are now wiser, very much wiser.
Sons girlfriend now works from home bar the odd day and the firm has now got rid of an office so that is massive savings.
Accountant, I know the same.
This pandemic has changed the world massively.
If it can be done on a computer and zoom why do you need an office, and do you really need for it to be done in the UK?

Something else, my wife's best mate's daughter works for 'Priti Patel' and she still works from home now.
When my wife goes there for lunch she comes down suited up top with hot pants on.

[heapsy]

WFH 'en mass' is a new thing.
The pandemic has changed things massively and firms are now wiser, very much wiser.
Sons girlfriend now works from home bar the odd day and the firm has now got rid of an office so that is massive savings.
Accountant, I know the same.
This pandemic has changed the world massively.
If it can be done on a computer and zoom why do you need an office, and do you really need for it to be done in the UK?

Something else, my wife's best mate's daughter works for 'Priti Patel' and she still works from home now.
When my wife goes there for lunch she comes down suited up top with hot pants on.

You're right mate. I used to deliver to a woman working in IT for the BBC. Does all the IT for a well known radio 1 dj and hardly ever goes in to the office, unless it's something that can't be fixed from home. But that could just as well be done from New Deli.

[Woody Guthrie]

The problem with working from home is not the direct threat to those jobs but the hidden jobs it threatens.

If you're working from home do you really need that second car and the jobs that built it? Do we really need so many train drivers, taxi drivers and bus drivers with people not commuting to work, do we need the sandwich shops, cafés and restaurants people use for lunch, do we need the work clothes and all those jobs involved when we can sit in our PJs to do our work?

Even minor things like less haircuts, make up and shaving are all indirect effects of working from home and they all ultimately mean jobs. .

As Postman says it's a huge seismic change in the workplace.

On the upside it's good for the environment.

[datasaint]

No mention of dropping to 36 or 35 hrs in the video either, wonder if they've ditched it for this year?

The union don't want the pay rise tied to anything and neither should we.

As Terry said, a one off, no strings, on time pay rise that keeps pace with inflation.

No f***ing nonsense, it's the first time he's made sense in years.

Why all the unncessary criticism directed at Terry? Every video I've ever watched him in he always makes an impassioned case for the humble postal worker on the ground, defending the USO, making an argument to grow the business through new ideas, and having reason and rationale to back up his arguments.

Most people that criticise him don't actually have the IQ to understand his position. The union is there to work with the business, not against.

[Martin Walsh]

Rogersh we have asked for a no strings pay deal as we don’t want the pay being dragged out by the further talks.

Every office is due a revision this year as part of the 3 year productivity flight path. The details of this will need further negotiations as will whether it is based on table tops or revised structural revisions.

The impact from the opening of the Warrington Parcel Hub on RDCs , Mail Centres and Delivery Offices. The Midland Hub will also open the end of 2023. The nine mail centres which border Warrington will lose circa 25% of their outward work. YDC loses significant workload as well. All mail centres will see a reduction in their inward larger parcels.

In addition there is still a debate about how the larger parcels are delivered and by who and when. As previously stated the limit of the automation in Warrington is circa 360 selections. Therefore they will be sent to circa 320 delivery offices. Therefore Royal Mail want the format 3&4 parcels to be delivered along with the LAT from the larger offices thus meaning every delivery office loses workload.

The CWU’s position is that there can be a bull ring in the Lat office which breaks down into individual postcodes and then delivery from that office. In addition we believe that the format 3&4 parcels should not be delayed to make the LAT more cost effective but delivered on the core delivery.

In addition there is the issue of Sunday and the fact that we need to ensure that we do not lose that Sunday workload whilst at the same time not making Sundays compulsory.

On time of that there will be a number of trials on a new delivery model.

These talks will all take time and so we want to get the new pay deal done separately whilst talks continue on the others.

There is a policy forum on 30th , 31st March in Liverpool and all Branch’s will receive a document containing the PE policy for these forward discussions and Branch’s will have a chance to support ,amend or add at the policy forum. This will then form the basis of our strategy in these talks.