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Never known a place like it

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panzer4
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Re: Never known a place like it

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ssdd wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 15:05
I remember a documentary from a while back, when they sent a Royal Marine around on a walking duty. And do you know what he said after? "I wouldn't want to do that 5 days a week". And this was in the day of 3h 30m delivery spans! Anyone else remember that?
We had two marines work in our office both quit because it was so hard that was back in the days of second delivery’s and six day week.
fb1969
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Re: Never known a place like it

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This link mentions an ex Marine working for Royal Mail in 2009.

viewtopic.php?t=23602

and this one https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... er-reforms states

In a recent edition of the BBC's Panorama programme, an ex-marine tried to do a postal round walking at a pace of 4mph – the alleged rate required by the Royal Mail. He failed to finish in time.

"All the Panorama guy was delivering was leaflets and he didn't have to go into any tower blocks, which takes about 15 minutes to do. It was an easy round but he still couldn't finish it," says the postman.

The CWU said the system the Royal Mail uses to determine routes has a default mode of 4mph. Managers are supposed to take the difficulty of the route into consideration but are failing to do so.

The company categorically denies that anyone is required to walk at a speed of 4mph and said that the average walking speed is 2mph but in some cases is quicker.



Little has changed since then, although the CWU seem to have disappeared now.
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failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
ssdd
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Re: Never known a place like it

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Cheers fb1969. I thought it was a Panorama documentary but couldn't remember. That line I quoted was the thing that stuck in my head!

You would have thought with Simon's recent video that referenced comments from this site there would be some response from CWU. Maybe they're busy... :hmmmm
WASD
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Re: Never known a place like it

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To put the "hard work" arguments into some perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell. The reality of RM is as we've all seen in person or read on here, bullying, pressure, toxic environments, poor equipment, little to no ability to plan life around job, often no toilet breaks, and soaking wet or heat exhaustion with nowhere to have a break.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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If youve been a walking posty for years and in a certain age group and are struggling with wear and tear now its difficult but have to try and keep going. The revisions are gonna be the final nail in the coffin for some , all part of the plan though.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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WASD wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 20:03
To put the "hard work" arguments into some perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell. The reality of RM is as we've all seen in person or read on here, bullying, pressure, toxic environments, poor equipment, little to no ability to plan life around job, often no toilet breaks, and soaking wet or heat exhaustion with nowhere to have a break.
So sitting on a till in tescos not moving much is just as hard as walking constantly for four to five hours with weight,you could have the stamina for both and be happy in your job but one is naturally harder than the other.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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richietns wrote: ↑
15 Sep 2021, 05:41
WASD wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 20:03
To put the "hard work" arguments into some perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell. The reality of RM is as we've all seen in person or read on here, bullying, pressure, toxic environments, poor equipment, little to no ability to plan life around job, often no toilet breaks, and soaking wet or heat exhaustion with nowhere to have a break.
So sitting on a till in tescos not moving much is just as hard as walking constantly for four to five hours with weight,you could have the stamina for both and be happy in your job but one is naturally harder than the other.
Yes it is 'just as hard' since different muscle groups, posture alignments and physical/mental stressors will be taking their toll day-to-day if they are not addressed by working on them to negate negative effects.

WASD: "To put the "hard work" arguments into 'some' perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell."

....is totally correct and nail-hit-on-head there.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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Ad_bee wrote: ↑
15 Sep 2021, 07:32
richietns wrote: ↑
15 Sep 2021, 05:41
WASD wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 20:03
To put the "hard work" arguments into some perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell. The reality of RM is as we've all seen in person or read on here, bullying, pressure, toxic environments, poor equipment, little to no ability to plan life around job, often no toilet breaks, and soaking wet or heat exhaustion with nowhere to have a break.
So sitting on a till in tescos not moving much is just as hard as walking constantly for four to five hours with weight,you could have the stamina for both and be happy in your job but one is naturally harder than the other.
Yes it is 'just as hard' since different muscle groups, posture alignments and physical/mental stressors will be taking their toll day-to-day if they are not addressed by working on them to negate negative effects.

WASD: "To put the "hard work" arguments into 'some' perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell."

....is totally correct and nail-hit-on-head there.
There two totaly different jobs stop trying to blur the lines.Obviously if your walking for four to five hours constantly your going to be more tired than you would be sitting down it just stands to reason i know ive done both,that being said some people can take more strain than others but that doesnt make all jobs the same.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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richietns wrote: ↑
15 Sep 2021, 05:41
WASD wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 20:03
To put the "hard work" arguments into some perspective, all jobs are easy if you have the stamina, strength and are happy in your work. Once your body starts giving up or causing issues, and your mental health deteriorates, any job is hell. The reality of RM is as we've all seen in person or read on here, bullying, pressure, toxic environments, poor equipment, little to no ability to plan life around job, often no toilet breaks, and soaking wet or heat exhaustion with nowhere to have a break.
So sitting on a till in tescos not moving much is just as hard as walking constantly for four to five hours with weight,you could have the stamina for both and be happy in your job but one is naturally harder than the other.
You need to reread what i wrote because you've missed the point. But with what Rich said, jobs such as being on a checkout can be hard work if you're not built or wired for it. But that wasn't my point. My point in black and white is that being a postie is easy untill the pysical strain kicks in, and you can't get any time off for friends and family events.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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To Norfolk N Chance
I don’t understand why, if you have the qualifications you say you have , you are so desperate , or appear to be , in wanting to join Royal Mail, especially if it’s going to undergo the traumatic changes you predict. As I’ve replied to you in another thread , there appear to be jobs galore where I live in south east England, for similar money , so why not relocate?
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Re: Never known a place like it

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nightcrawler wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:36
30 years here, on the verge of quitting.
Been in too long to quit, started when it was the good old days, now just marking time 6 years to retirement and putting my papers in.
Six of Nine loves Seven of Nine, together in Electric Dreams.
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Re: Never known a place like it

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I lasted a year, worst company I've ever worked for. Incompetent bullying managers made me ill and I'm still waiting for my holiday pay. They are crooks! Good riddance!
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by ronaldinho0097 »

I'm owed 12hrs OT pay from the past 2 weeks. What a joke. I've chased this up to no avail. Don't know what else to do other than flat out refuse to do any OT and just work my contracted hrs until I am paid in full. Never in my life have I not been paid for the job I do.