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Never known a place like it

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
theotherone
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by theotherone »

Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 17:31
theotherone wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 17:19
It's all part of the plan to get rid of the USO it's got to be.
Must be a very cunning and/or brave plan.... but i suppose it could be.... "sorry but we tried to modernise and it didn't work
Exactly.Why do you need a massive drive in recruitment when soon you could potentially want to lose 20k of the workforce.
Letters are being driven in to the ground they are purposely trying to make it look like it's a failure they will fight tooth and nail to make it look unsustainable.
hawkeye622
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by hawkeye622 »

Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:38
hawkeye622 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:02
Just over two years for me but hoping not to make it three years in the company :thumbdown
Can I have your job?
You're more than welcome mate, let me find a new job first then I will recommend you.

:dance
Munchboii
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Munchboii »

I lasted 3 years joined aged 20 and knackered physically and mentally by 23.

Tendonitius in left wrist and achillies and the ligament on my left foot is in tatters. 60 hour weeks

Mentally exhausted from being on temp contracts for months on end

Sad to go but it was for the best
XCHpostie
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by XCHpostie »

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Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:38
hawkeye622 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:02
Just over two years for me but hoping not to make it three years in the company :thumbdown
Can I have your job?
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
richietns
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by richietns »

Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 17:31
theotherone wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 17:19
It's all part of the plan to get rid of the USO it's got to be.
Must be a very cunning and/or brave plan.... but i suppose it could be.... "sorry but we tried to modernise and it didn't work
The companys still in caronavirus mode dutys were left in which ofcom allowed but now that the pandemic isnt as prevalent were back to two in a van with mail still being failed like a year ago there does seem to be a plan to ignore the mail,maybe this is our new way of working now just leave 2 ,3,dutys in no one at the top seems to be botherd ofcom ,union,RM bosses.
Norfolk 'N' Chance
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Norfolk 'N' Chance »

XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Image
Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:38
hawkeye622 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:02
Just over two years for me but hoping not to make it three years in the company :thumbdown
Can I have your job?
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
No offence taken, but in the first week i would try to clear my frame everyday. If that meant 2, 3, 4 or more four hours of unpaid overtime each day then so be it.
richietns
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by richietns »

Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 08:46
XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Image
Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:38
hawkeye622 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:02
Just over two years for me but hoping not to make it three years in the company :thumbdown
Can I have your job?
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
No offence taken, but in the first week i would try to clear my frame everyday. If that meant 2, 3, 4 or more four hours of unpaid overtime each day then so be it.
You would work 4 hours unpaid on top of your normal hours do you understand how exhausting that would be you wouldnt last the second week.
Norfolk 'N' Chance
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Norfolk 'N' Chance »

richietns wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 09:00
Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 08:46
XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Image
Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:38
hawkeye622 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:02
Just over two years for me but hoping not to make it three years in the company :thumbdown
Can I have your job?
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
No offence taken, but in the first week i would try to clear my frame everyday. If that meant 2, 3, 4 or more four hours of unpaid overtime each day then so be it.
You would work 4 hours unpaid on top of your normal hours do you understand how exhausting that would be you wouldnt last the second week.
richietns, my gripe is not with you and whilst this may appear bolshy, i can assure you its more the frustration of long term unemployment and the restrictions that puts on ones life.

So in answering your question, yes to be honest i think i do. I;ve often stood bent over in a field picking fruit and vegetables and manual carrying crates full of produce and stacking them on a trailer for 8 to 10 hrs a day. Its one of the hardest jobs ive come across and for as little £3 per hour, its not great work. - Yes its exploitation but the organisers of this activity are extremely proficient and know how the system works and to discuss the rights and wrongs and all that cash in hand for unskilled labour entails is another big subject.

Ive been out labouring with builders many a time and before now I've mixed 10+ tons of concrete up by hand in a day before, shoveling it in a mixer and barrowing it to where they are pouring the screed. Ive delivered over 2500 phone books this summer for way below minimum wage by the time you account for fuel etc. Ive cleaned toilets and many other things. All im saying is that having an Msc and Postgraduate education counts for very little. Employers see your age and your in the over the hill box before you even get an interview.

Yes your job is hard and if what I read here RM management are extremely poor but your lucky you have a job and can put food on the table regularly and can pay bills on time. Many of us unfortunately can only dream of that.

I might be over 50 but im certainly not out and im not lazy. All im looking for is an opportunity to work. Is it really too much in the 21st century to ask to feel like you can do a decent days work and have integrity and the sense of self worth?
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Chelseablue
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Chelseablue »

You would do hours of unpaid overtime ? Crazy .
richietns
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by richietns »

Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 09:38
richietns wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 09:00
Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 08:46
XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Image
Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:38
hawkeye622 wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 16:02
Just over two years for me but hoping not to make it three years in the company :thumbdown
Can I have your job?
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
No offence taken, but in the first week i would try to clear my frame everyday. If that meant 2, 3, 4 or more four hours of unpaid overtime each day then so be it.
You would work 4 hours unpaid on top of your normal hours do you understand how exhausting that would be you wouldnt last the second week.
richietns, my gripe is not with you and whilst this may appear bolshy, i can assure you its more the frustration of long term unemployment and the restrictions that puts on ones life.

So in answering your question, yes to be honest i think i do. I;ve often stood bent over in a field picking fruit and vegetables and manual carrying crates full of produce and stacking them on a trailer for 8 to 10 hrs a day. Its one of the hardest jobs ive come across and for as little £3 per hour, its not great work. - Yes its exploitation but the organisers of this activity are extremely proficient and know how the system works and to discuss the rights and wrongs and all that cash in hand for unskilled labour entails is another big subject.

Ive been out labouring with builders many a time and before now I've mixed 10+ tons of concrete up by hand in a day before, shoveling it in a mixer and barrowing it to where they are pouring the screed. Ive delivered over 2500 phone books this summer for way below minimum wage by the time you account for fuel etc. Ive cleaned toilets and many other things. All im saying is that having an Msc and Postgraduate education counts for very little. Employers see your age and your in the over the hill box before you even get an interview.

Yes your job is hard and if what I read here RM management are extremely poor but your lucky you have a job and can put food on the table regularly and can pay bills on time. Many of us unfortunately can only dream of that.

I might be over 50 but im certainly not out and im not lazy. All im looking for is an opportunity to work. Is it really too much in the 21st century to ask to feel like you can do a decent days work and have integrity and the sense of self worth?
But if you had the job it would be unnecessary to work three or four hours for nothing its that attitude thats got royal mail racing to the bottom low wages etc,cheaper workforce,managers abusing new starters etc.ime just sharing my opinion not gripeing. :Very Happy
Tman
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Tman »

XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
Given the depth of the OP's work experience I doubt many on here would last more than a day or so doing what he has done. The tired old "we've got it so tough in RM" doesn't really stack up against many people's harsh world of work.
Fdeezy
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Fdeezy »

Tman wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 11:12
XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
Given the depth of the OP's work experience I doubt many on here would last more than a day or so doing what he has done. The tired old "we've got it so tough in RM" doesn't really stack up against many people's harsh world of work.
:Applause

Honestly don't think you'll be seeing 37 hours at royal mail on world's toughest jobs any time soon.
Norfolk 'N' Chance
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by Norfolk 'N' Chance »

Tman wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 11:12
XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
Given the depth of the OP's work experience I doubt many on here would last more than a day or so doing what he has done. The tired old "we've got it so tough in RM" doesn't really stack up against many people's harsh world of work.
Tman, thankyou! Much appreciated.
richietns
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by richietns »

Tman wrote: ↑
14 Sep 2021, 11:12
XCHpostie wrote: ↑
13 Sep 2021, 22:31
Don’t mean to cause offence or anything pal but I doubt you would last a week.
Given the depth of the OP's work experience I doubt many on here would last more than a day or so doing what he has done. The tired old "we've got it so tough in RM" doesn't really stack up against many people's harsh world of work.
Its still a very physical job,theres alot more easier jobs specaily when your 50+ its silly talk saying you will work for nothing.
ssdd
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Re: Never known a place like it

Post by ssdd »

I remember a documentary from a while back, when they sent a Royal Marine around on a walking duty. And do you know what he said after? "I wouldn't want to do that 5 days a week". And this was in the day of 3h 30m delivery spans! Anyone else remember that?