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Post by teesdale »

Bristol Mail Centre has a flag pole. Could be unusual in mail centres across United Kingdom. I was suprised to see that the Union Flag (not always flying) but often seen, was flying at half mast today. Many hundreds of people traveling along A38 would have seen that from their cars. Well done Royal Mail.
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Well done Bristol Mail Centre. I thought I may have seen flags at half mast at the sites I visit, but don’t recall seeing any flags at all, half mast or otherwise.
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ConeHater wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 20:23
Well done Bristol Mail Centre. I thought I may have seen flags at half mast at the sites I visit, but don’t recall seeing any flags at all, half mast or otherwise.
What is so great about flying flags. I detest it especially where i live. Why is bristol flying flags if its not a rm thing to do excuse me if it is.
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aiden01 wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 21:26
ConeHater wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 20:23
Well done Bristol Mail Centre. I thought I may have seen flags at half mast at the sites I visit, but don’t recall seeing any flags at all, half mast or otherwise.
What is so great about flying flags. I detest it especially where i live. Why is bristol flying flags if its not a rm thing to do excuse me if it is.
"Royal" Mail is in the title of the company's name, this is why the union flag is flown at half last.

You don't have to like it, just dont look at it or impose your opinion on others.

I salute it just as I salute the Queen, Officers and Colours.
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Re: Half mast

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NWpostie wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 23:16
aiden01 wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 21:26
ConeHater wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 20:23
Well done Bristol Mail Centre. I thought I may have seen flags at half mast at the sites I visit, but don’t recall seeing any flags at all, half mast or otherwise.
What is so great about flying flags. I detest it especially where i live. Why is bristol flying flags if its not a rm thing to do excuse me if it is.
"Royal" Mail is in the title of the company's name, this is why the union flag is flown at half last.

You don't have to like it, just dont look at it or impose your opinion on others.

I salute it just as I salute the Queen, Officers and Colours.
Not imposing anything on anyone just having my opinion like you are.
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Re: Half mast

Post by Tman »

My old MC used to fly the Union Flag on special occasions like the Queen's Birthday etc. Never could understand why it wasn't left up all the time, but the powers-that-be said no to that.
A consequence of having small-minded people in positions of power, presumably.
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Re: Half mast

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Tman wrote:
11 Apr 2021, 08:35
My old MC used to fly the Union Flag on special occasions like the Queen's Birthday etc. Never could understand why it wasn't left up all the time, but the powers-that-be said no to that.
A consequence of having small-minded people in positions of power, presumably.
The rule for MC's is to fly the Union Flag on the national flag flying days and at all other times the red Royal Mail flag should be flown.
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Tman wrote:
11 Apr 2021, 08:35
My old MC used to fly the Union Flag on special occasions like the Queen's Birthday etc. Never could understand why it wasn't left up all the time, but the powers-that-be said no to that.
A consequence of having small-minded people in positions of power, presumably.
Up until 2012 you needed permission to fly the Union Flag but the law was changed so unlikely to be anyone in power stopping it, more likely a cost thing, they get damaged and faded by the weather quite quickly if they're up all the time and they're not cheap to replace.
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NWpostie wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 23:16
aiden01 wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 21:26
ConeHater wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 20:23
Well done Bristol Mail Centre. I thought I may have seen flags at half mast at the sites I visit, but don’t recall seeing any flags at all, half mast or otherwise.
What is so great about flying flags. I detest it especially where i live. Why is bristol flying flags if its not a rm thing to do excuse me if it is.
"Royal" Mail is in the title of the company's name, this is why the union flag is flown at half last.

You don't have to like it, just dont look at it or impose your opinion on others.

I salute it just as I salute the Queen, Officers and Colours.
A little culturally insensitive there NWpostie - Aiden is based in Northern Ireland he makes no secret of that. Flags, on both sides, have huge connotations and a lot of history behind them. Just as your position about the Union flag is coloured by your experience, his position is coloured by his and both positions are equally valid, but context is important.
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Some people need totems in their life to respect.
Some prefer to respect more ethereal things like love, decency or life itself.
Some try a little of both.

Each to their own but one thing about respecting any national flag is that you can't pick and choose the history it represents, good or bad by saluting it you're endorsing both.
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A flag is a simple national and pictorial representation of the country which uses it, and is ideal for everything from Armed Forces uniforms to ship identification.
There are no "good or bad" morality judgements to be made about it.
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Tman wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 17:51
A flag is a simple national and pictorial representation of the country which uses it, and is ideal for everything from Armed Forces uniforms to ship identification.
There are no "good or bad" morality judgements to be made about it.
Yes the Swastika was a simple national and pictorial representation of the country which used it and no "good or bad" morality judgements could be made about it.

See also the Japanese Rising Sun and The Confederate Flag among others around the world idolised or "respected" if you like by scum.
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Re: Half mast

Post by Tman »

Ridiculous comparisons.
We're talking about flags in every day use around the world usually for the most mundane of reasons.
To cite the flags/emblems of historical evil regimes as an example is merely facile.
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In Northern Ireland where terrorist groups and violent protestors on both sides use the flags of both nations to reinforce their perceived "allegiance", I suggest that there is a moral judgement that can be opined.

That's why I mentioned context, both flags have connotations for both sides whether we agree with them or not it's not something that should be ignored, to do so in the province would be naive and counterproductive.

In the end all I was trying to point out that Aiden has a different opinion about flying a flag, and I tried to point out why.
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Re: Half mast

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You're wasting your time Teebs.
The man suffers from cognitive dissonance.
The more untenable and ridiculous his position becomes the more entrenched he becomes.

He can't even see that whether a regime is described as evil kind of depends on whether you're carrying the flag or being chased down the street by it.
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