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5hr+delivery spans

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hans solo
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5hr+delivery spans

Post by hans solo »

are there ssow and h&s in place for this
can rm make you walk 5hr+without break
can rm force break at end of 5hr +walk
are welfare and toilet facilities in place for extending deliver spans
has the impact of lwt and hct on people been investigated over 5hr +delivery spans
cwu reps going round staff this morning to expect longer deliveries
well done cwu you have played a blinder yet again
the health and welfare of staff are obviously irrelavent to hq
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by clashcityrocker »

hans solo wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 09:02

the health and welfare of staff are obviously irrelevant to hq
You can have shorter delivery spans but it will mean a much higher number of part time jobs.
If you vote to have longer delivery spans then it just shows that the health and the welfare of staff is irrelevant to ......the staff.
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by 2yearpostie »

Heres the law;

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

Rest breaks at work
Workers have the right to one uninterrupted 20 minute rest break during their working day, if they work more than 6 hours a day. This could be a tea or lunch break.

The break doesn’t have to be paid - it
Dorset Plodder
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by Dorset Plodder »

hans solo wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 09:02
are there ssow and h&s in place for this
can rm make you walk 5hr+without break
can rm force break at end of 5hr +walk
are welfare and toilet facilities in place for extending deliver spans
has the impact of lwt and hct on people been investigated over 5hr +delivery spans
How long are you out for at present? Are you working the full ammount of your contracted hours?

We've got a few duties that are already 5 1/2 hours plus, and even longer on a Busy Day. :sad: Admittedly they're Van Duties. I know our Biggest HCT Duty covers 13 miles, but I don't think it takes 5 1/2 hours to deliver.

We all have to realise that RM will have their pound of flesh. If indoor work is dropping of they will expect us to make up for it outside.

Hopefully the Hour off the working week may help this time around. I know the last two attemps have merely resulted in the majority of Posties just booking that so called saving as "Pressure Over Time" :cuppa
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

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another deal of the century :d'oh! , but we will be ok because in 2022 we will go down to a 35 hour week :thumbup ,
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

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worktotime wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:17
another deal of the century :d'oh! , but we will be ok because in 2022 we will go down to a 35 hour week :thumbup ,
Dont add up
Delivery 5hrs

leaves

ips 1hr
throw walk in 1hr

not doable.
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by worktotime »

2yearpostie wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:56
worktotime wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:17
another deal of the century :d'oh! , but we will be ok because in 2022 we will go down to a 35 hour week :thumbup ,
Dont add up
Delivery 5hrs

leaves

ips 1hr
throw walk in 1hr

not doable.
it doesnt matter if its doable or not and to be honest who cares , it was part of the 4 pillars agreement which the company has agreed to :thumbup
Cucumber
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by Cucumber »

2yearpostie wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:56
worktotime wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:17
another deal of the century :d'oh! , but we will be ok because in 2022 we will go down to a 35 hour week :thumbup ,
Dont add up
Delivery 5hrs

leaves

ips 1hr
throw walk in 1hr

not doable.
Who knows if the 35hr week will be based around 4 day weeks or 9 day fortnights?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Cucumber wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 19:52
2yearpostie wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:56
worktotime wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 18:17
another deal of the century :d'oh! , but we will be ok because in 2022 we will go down to a 35 hour week :thumbup ,
Dont add up
Delivery 5hrs

leaves

ips 1hr
throw walk in 1hr

not doable.
Who knows if the 35hr week will be based around 4 day weeks or 9 day fortnights?
I think it'll partly be down to if Sunday delivery actually takes off
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by twoloops »

We have some new starters on 22.30 contracts, they come in & bag up 2 loops & go out with a trolley & have 2 more bags brought to them later, they have no tracked & no PDA, they only work 4 & half hours x 5 days, once they hit time, they come back regardless.
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by Pathfinder »

twoloops wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 20:57
We have some new starters on 22.30 contracts, they come in & bag up 2 loops & go out with a trolley & have 2 more bags brought to them later, they have no tracked & no PDA, they only work 4 & half hours x 5 days, once they hit time, they come back regardless.
This sounds great!
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Pathfinder wrote:
09 Apr 2021, 07:53
twoloops wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 20:57
We have some new starters on 22.30 contracts, they come in & bag up 2 loops & go out with a trolley & have 2 more bags brought to them later, they have no tracked & no PDA, they only work 4 & half hours x 5 days, once they hit time, they come back regardless.

This sounds great!
As with all things Royal Mail it's Great if that's what you're looking for Pathfinder. On that sort of contract you're only going to be taking home about £200 a week. Great if you're living at home with Mum & Dad, looking for a Little Part Time Job to get you out & about :thumbup .... Not so Good if you're looking to provide for a Wife & Kids, and keep the Wolf from the Door. :thumbdown

I believe we should be looking to provide "Proper" Full Time Employment for as many people as possible .... Not an endless choice of Crappy PT Contracts. :sad: RM can spin it whatever way they want with "Innovative, Interesting, Flexible contracts to meet the needs of our Diverse workforce ..... who are looking for contracts that suit their busy lifestyle" :crazy: That's all Bollocks. :no no

Basically most Posties don't want to be out working until Stupid O'Clock (whilst their FT Prepping (Senior?) colleagues are at home showered, changed and chilling out). :no no

They don't want to be working most of the Weekend (that's when Normal people "Normally" Socialise ... Weddings... Birthdays ... Parties ... Pub ... BBQs in the Garden ... Sport. :no no

If anyone wants a job with Flexible Timings try the Home Delivery Services of any LARGE Retailer ... Delivering Food at 2200 on a Sat Night for people that are too bloody idle to do their own shopping FFS! :arrrghhh

Not having a personal Dig Pathfinder ... Just a General Rant . :cuppa
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by DGH »

We have an insane situation where about a dozen posties want to reduce their hours and there's about thirty want to increase their hours. But all requests to reduce hours are being knocked back despite the fact that there's plenty of folk wanting the 'lost' hours.
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by Dogbone1510 »

5hrs were the norm.before this pandemic yesterday out for 6hrs 30. I'd like to say uts a 1 off but that'd be a lie and the union are useless. Managers say only thing you can leave are non tracked pkts.
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Re: 5hr+delivery spans

Post by Pathfinder »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
09 Apr 2021, 09:05
Pathfinder wrote:
09 Apr 2021, 07:53
twoloops wrote:
07 Apr 2021, 20:57
We have some new starters on 22.30 contracts, they come in & bag up 2 loops & go out with a trolley & have 2 more bags brought to them later, they have no tracked & no PDA, they only work 4 & half hours x 5 days, once they hit time, they come back regardless.

This sounds great!
As with all things Royal Mail it's Great if that's what you're looking for Pathfinder. On that sort of contract you're only going to be taking home about £200 a week. Great if you're living at home with Mum & Dad, looking for a Little Part Time Job to get you out & about :thumbup .... Not so Good if you're looking to provide for a Wife & Kids, and keep the Wolf from the Door. :thumbdown

I believe we should be looking to provide "Proper" Full Time Employment for as many people as possible .... Not an endless choice of Crappy PT Contracts. :sad: RM can spin it whatever way they want with "Innovative, Interesting, Flexible contracts to meet the needs of our Diverse workforce ..... who are looking for contracts that suit their busy lifestyle" :crazy: That's all Bollocks. :no no

Basically most Posties don't want to be out working until Stupid O'Clock (whilst their FT Prepping (Senior?) colleagues are at home showered, changed and chilling out). :no no

They don't want to be working most of the Weekend (that's when Normal people "Normally" Socialise ... Weddings... Birthdays ... Parties ... Pub ... BBQs in the Garden ... Sport. :no no

If anyone wants a job with Flexible Timings try the Home Delivery Services of any LARGE Retailer ... Delivering Food at 2200 on a Sat Night for people that are too bloody idle to do their own shopping FFS! :arrrghhh

Not having a personal Dig Pathfinder ... Just a General Rant . :cuppa
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