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Parcel size for van duties.

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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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It certainly would be tempting if things improve for these other companies, parcel delivery alone is much easier and they all seem to have decent vans, in our place at the moment it’s a fight to get a van and a pda and the vans are ancient and filthy
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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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How long till we get Transit sized vans to do these dedicated parcel runs, no way we are going to fit it all in a Bipper..
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Will we be able to manage as we are if lots of the big stuff is taken off us, dedicated van duties will definitely need to be bigger though
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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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2yearpostie wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 15:43
How long till we get Transit sized vans to do these dedicated parcel runs, no way we are going to fit it all in a Bipper..
It'll probably be Mercedes Sprinter vans, like what get used for some airmail runs to-from MCs
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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 20:43
2yearpostie wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 15:43
How long till we get Transit sized vans to do these dedicated parcel runs, no way we are going to fit it all in a Bipper..
It'll probably be Mercedes Sprinter vans, like what get used for some airmail runs to-from MCs
It's actually Peugeot Expert vans that are replacing the Bipper and the Partner.

We have around 60 vans and over the past two years around 20 of the smaller vans have been replaced by the transit sized Expert. They're good vans with a large load space and on paper three front seats although in practice it would have to be a couple of very thin people in the passenger seats to fit three in.
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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 06:23
SpacePhoenix wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 20:43
2yearpostie wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 15:43
How long till we get Transit sized vans to do these dedicated parcel runs, no way we are going to fit it all in a Bipper..
It'll probably be Mercedes Sprinter vans, like what get used for some airmail runs to-from MCs
It's actually Peugeot Expert vans that are replacing the Bipper and the Partner.

We have around 60 vans and over the past two years around 20 of the smaller vans have been replaced by the transit sized Expert. They're good vans with a large load space and on paper three front seats although in practice it would have to be a couple of very thin people in the passenger seats to fit three in.
Not 100% sure that Peugeot Expert vans will be big enough once you've got a few large items like microwaves, kids car seats, lawn mowers, etc in them
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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 07:07
Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 06:23
SpacePhoenix wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 20:43
2yearpostie wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 15:43
How long till we get Transit sized vans to do these dedicated parcel runs, no way we are going to fit it all in a Bipper..
It'll probably be Mercedes Sprinter vans, like what get used for some airmail runs to-from MCs
It's actually Peugeot Expert vans that are replacing the Bipper and the Partner.

We have around 60 vans and over the past two years around 20 of the smaller vans have been replaced by the transit sized Expert. They're good vans with a large load space and on paper three front seats although in practice it would have to be a couple of very thin people in the passenger seats to fit three in.
Not 100% sure that Peugeot Expert vans will be big enough once you've got a few large items like microwaves, kids car seats, lawn mowers, etc in them
Items that size are relatively rare.
If you've ever delivered parcels in an urban area you'll know that too large a vehicle is a liability.
Parcelforce will still handle the bulk of the big stuff.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 07:43
If you've ever delivered parcels in an urban area you'll know that too large a vehicle is a liability.
If Mercedes Sprinter vans or another manufacturer's equivalent are a liability then why does every courier and PF use them then in an urban area? :wink:
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 08:00
Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 07:43
If you've ever delivered parcels in an urban area you'll know that too large a vehicle is a liability.
If Mercedes Sprinter vans or another manufacturer's equivalent are a liability then why does every courier and PF use them then in an urban area? :wink:
Because..

A) They have far larger areas to cover.
B) They don't have a division of their company dedicated to delivering larger items. :wink: :nervous
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 08:12
A) They have far larger areas to cover.
No larger than what the new parcel duties will be covering :wink:
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 08:17
Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 08:12
A) They have far larger areas to cover.
No larger than what the new parcel duties will be covering :wink:
Of course it is, you're wandering into territory you don't know anything about SP.
The new parcel duties will cover at most about 5 duties all next to each other. You're unlikely to be more than 10 miles away from the DO at the furthest point.

My Parcelforce guy starts 25 miles away and covers around 150 miles a day delivering anything from mattresses to decking.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
08 Mar 2021, 08:26
The new parcel duties will cover at most about 5 duties all next to each other. You're unlikely to be more than 10 miles away from the DO at the furthest point.
I'll believe that when I actually see it happening, until then, frankly I'm calling bullshit on that
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The Peugeot Expert vans being delivered to us now are longer than the ones we've had for the last couple of years. They are easy to tell apart as they have the new livery.
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Re: Parcel size for van duties.

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 10:44
When I started everything was a packet.
Parcels were what Parcelforce delivered.
Very True Woody. How Bizarre then when I'm stood on the doorstep with the Parcel Force Guy .... I've got a set of Curtain Rails , or something, in a bloody 6ft long box ... He's got a shoe boxed sized parcel. :crazy:

We discussed the irony whilst waiting for the customer .... who wasn't in. Then I learnt something else, Parcel Force aren't allowed to leave parcels (they docket everything) :shock: and they'd recently started to use computer generated inventories (so they had to be there for a time slot) ... and he'd have to return to deliver the neighbours parcel because their time slot was 2 hours later! :crazy:

This was time ago so I hope their Bosses have seen the error of their ways? :cuppa
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Sugar wrote:
07 Mar 2021, 12:20
It's been on the cards for sometime now that the company are wanting to go down the route of less people doing more work by trying to take greater control, via technology, of how each duty looks on a day to day basis. Unfortunately most OPG's bury their heads in the sand and think it'll not happen to them or just carry on regardless running around like headless chickens in a vain effort to finish early.

OPG's really are their own worst enemies and the company exploits this time and time again.
Too True Sugar :Applause How many times have they been asked to "Work Properly"? But they still run around carving their duties up. :arrrghhh

It's a constant struggle to try and get staff to start on time, take their meal breaks and stand up to the DOM and tell him they've No Time to lapse. :cuppa
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