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Re: Sunday Deliveries to commence

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Will people be allowed to work 7 days/week?
I thought the WTD didn't allow this.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 14:28
Will people be allowed to work 7 days/week?
I thought the WTD didn't allow this.
Some people have been working 7 days a week for a while , I don't think anyone gives a toss about the WTD
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They should, as working 7 days a week is against Employment Law.
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What happens if there is a serious accident and fatigue is partly to blame?
I sometimes can't believe I work in a FTSE top 250 company.
BooHoo are probably paragons of virtue compared to the Mickey Mouse practices of RM.
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If it is not then it will be negotiated not like supermarkets rolled in.
It wasn't rolled into supermarkets.
It's done by incentive payments and Sunday only staff, it kind of has to be because legally all shop workers can opt out of Sunday working as long as they give 3 months notice.

In a way they're better protected than we are.

Anyway I'll ask again, are the negotiations on Sunday payment still ongoing?
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Re: Sunday Deliveries to commence

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P13 wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 15:36
Some people have been working 7 days a week for a while , I don't think anyone gives a toss about the WTD
They do when it suits them.
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Re: Sunday Deliveries to commence

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My gut feeling is that eventually all staff will do Sundays at some point, probably on rotation
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What about religious reasons?
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Re: Sunday Deliveries to commence

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 19:33
My gut feeling is that eventually all staff will do Sundays at some point, probably on rotation
That'll probably be about the same time that any enhanced payment or pay rates for Sunday working will be negotiated away in return for a lump sum or higher percentage pay rise that year.
No point in paying the workers extra to do Sundays if they're going to be working them anyway..
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I would have thought the Long Term aim of the Business would be to recruit New Starters with the proviso that they had to work Sundays. :hmmmm

That way RM could probably take the hit of paying extra, to encourage current staff to man the shortfall, until they had enough of these New Starters. Then the rug would be swiftly pulled away. :no no

No thoughts on how that would then effect the current duty structure in a DO. I'm sure they find a solution? :cuppa
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bostonpilgrim wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 16:32
They should, as working 7 days a week is against Employment Law.
No it isn’t
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 19:33
My gut feeling is that eventually all staff will do Sundays at some point, probably on rotation
So what will non driver’s do on a Sunday in delivery offices then?
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The Working Time Directive and the Royal Mail and CWU working time directive agreement which is part of the Way Forward says :

Individuals should have 24 hour break from work every seven days and if they don’t in the first week they have to have a 48 hour uninterrupted break in the second week.
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Martin Walsh wrote:
06 Mar 2021, 14:32
Individuals should have 24 hour break from work every seven days and if they don’t in the first week they have to have a 48 hour uninterrupted break in the second week.
This is routinely ignored now.
It will be routinely ignored in the future. (Along with so many other things)
Why do we bother having national agreements?
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Re: Sunday Deliveries to commence

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number one wrote:
06 Mar 2021, 13:41
SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Mar 2021, 19:33
My gut feeling is that eventually all staff will do Sundays at some point, probably on rotation
So what will non driver’s do on a Sunday in delivery offices then?
Non drivers will eventually be Mon-Fri when Saturday becomes a parcel only day.
Non drivers will eventually be rarer than hen's teeth.
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