Back Pay

[fb1969]

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LTB 043/21 - KEY PRINCIPLES FRAMEWORK – THE PATHWAY TO CHANGE AGREEMENT (PAY ARRANGEMENTS)

The pay review and arrears will not apply to any former employee who left employment prior to the date of communication of the negotiators’ agreement on 18th December 2020.

[fly-catchers]

If you have retired but worked through April to November is it payable I wonder?

I wouldn't think so, you aren't employed by royal mail anymore so why would you get it? Could be wrong though

Because it’s what they owe you on the hours worked. I would say that they should pay it, unless there is a clause.

If you left before 18th December you don't get backpay.

They didn't even pay me all the hours I was due before I left so not surprised I won't get any backpay!

[Biker Mouse]

viewtopic.php?f=69&t=99403

LTB 043/21 - KEY PRINCIPLES FRAMEWORK – THE PATHWAY TO CHANGE AGREEMENT (PAY ARRANGEMENTS)

The pay review and arrears will not apply to any former employee who left employment prior to the date of communication of the negotiators’ agreement on 18th December 2020.

Does that mean if you left in mid January 2021 due to IHR, then you should be entitled to the back pay?

[fb1969]

I read it as that. If you left before 18 Dec 20 then you don't get anything, if you left on or after 18 Dec 20 you do.

[Biker Mouse]

I read it as that. If you left before 18 Dec 20 then you don't get anything, if you left on or after 18 Dec 20 you do.

Unexpected surprise if that is so!

[citypostie]

If you have retired but worked through April to November is it payable I wonder?

I wouldn't think so, you aren't employed by royal mail anymore so why would you get it? Could be wrong though

Because it’s what they owe you on the hours worked. I would say that they should pay it, unless there is a clause.

If you left before 18th December you don't get backpay.

I would say that's totally wrong.

And you would be wrong

[rambo1]

Never said I was right. Just said that if I wasn't, it would be wrong. what's the difference of me getting back pay for work performed from April to December last yr and someone who left in December? There is no difference. They should be paid.

[burton76]

My belief is:

if you worked between 6th April 2020 and the agreement being made you are entitled to the back pay by law. It isn't your fault your employer dilly dallied around, if that's the what the did.

If they are saying the pay relates to work you did during those days and you did it, you are entitled. Simple.

RM may say one thing, a tribunal may say another. I know who'd I'd go with.

[burton76]

Or, indeed, any portion of that time. There is no criteria in law that says you had to be employed on the day it was made. If the pay is back pay relating to the days you worked then you are entitled.

However, it will be your lonely fight to get it back if the majority want to believe what RM states instead.

[P13]

My belief is:

if you worked between 6th April 2020 and the agreement being made you are entitled to the back pay by law. It isn't your fault your employer dilly dallied around, if that's the what the did.

If they are saying the pay relates to work you did during those days and you did it, you are entitled. Simple.

RM may say one thing, a tribunal may say another. I know who'd I'd go with.

Can you quote which "law" you are posting about

[PostieSteps]

Blimey, not sure where to start. Basically I started on 1st December last year on a p/t contract, 28 hrs/week.

I'm guessing I won't see any back pay from 1st December, maybe a tenner?

P.S. - I was a postman years ago, left in 92 after 3 yrs. Boy is it a different game now but that's another post for another day...

Cheers all

[burton76]

I don't think I'm referring to one specific law but you could look up the laws on Google relating to pay.

The principles here are simple. If you worked those hours and your employer (regardless of your relationship now), states this was the rate of pay (whenever they decide) it should've been then - you are entitled to the difference and it has absolutely nothing to do with December 18th.

'Back dated pay deals' will bring up endless solicitor websites that clarify this.

If yo work i, and they pay it - you get it. You will have to request it if you've already gone.

[mjd24]

Blimey, not sure where to start. Basically I started on 1st December last year on a p/t contract, 28 hrs/week.

I'm guessing I won't see any back pay from 1st December, maybe a tenner?

P.S. - I was a postman years ago, left in 92 after 3 yrs. Boy is it a different game now but that's another post for another day...

Cheers all

I think a lot of us would love to hear your thoughts on how the job is now compared to back then, especially given youve been away from it and then come back.

[riverdale]

Left the business on good terms in December , will I get back pay April -December?

[deltaforce]

Left the business on good terms in December , will I get back pay April -December?

If it was before dec 18 no apparently. I’m not too happy myself either. I’ll be over £400 short changed.