Predict the outcome of the vote

[k979aaa]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

Don't know where you're getting 25,000 but that's not right.

full time delivery postie...basic pay £441.58 plus delivery supplement £25.65 plus £12.62 pay rise and another £4.79 pay rise in April = £484.64 top line (flat week) x by 52 weeks is £25,201.28. it would seem it is indeed right.

The sum is irrelevant it is what you can buy with it at the moment not much and the chancellor will recoup the out lay and he ani't looking at the rich.

[daveyeff]

irrelevant or not. he stated a point and its correct.

[k979aaa]

irrelevant or not. he stated a point and its correct.

What if I said the new CEO of royal mail is on £525,000 or 21 times a full time postman/woman and that is just his basic pay and he has other job's as a director.

[worktotime]

The outcome will be a bad deal for us all as they will not provide the question first. Second even if the vote goes the wrong way they will have another vote or not have a vote but a committee. We will be back here in three years time debating the same s**t with the same leaders of the union and our lot will have got worse during that time!

3 years ? , as long as that i reckon the s**t will hit the fan within the next 6 mth , then see what folk have to say on here

[daveyeff]

irrelevant or not. he stated a point and its correct.

What if I said the new CEO of royal mail is on £525,000 or 21 times a full time postman/woman and that is just his basic pay and he has other job's as a director.

so what.

[k979aaa]

irrelevant or not. he stated a point and its correct.

What if I said the new CEO of royal mail is on £525,000 or 21 times a full time postman/woman and that is just his basic pay and he has other job's as a director.

so what.

You do know he is responsible for the test and trace app which has lead to untold deaths and spreading of the virus and self isolation without reason in some cases. How can a clown like him run a business sorry forgot Boris they should get together and have a circus with Hancock and Co!

[daveyeff]

it is what it is. there's nowt we can do about what he gets or who he is. thats the way its always been and probably will remain that way forever more. rico, moya, leighton, crozier were all payed thousands more than us, as are the directors of tesco, adsa, saisburys and airlines. its always them and us.

[k979aaa]

it is what it is. there's nowt we can do about what he gets or who he is. thats the way its always been and probably will remain that way forever more. rico, moya, leighton, crozier were all payed thousands more than us, as are the directors of tesco, adsa, saisburys and airlines. its always them and us.

Why accept their terms and conditions they impose upon us? We are the union we should tell the union to go back get a better deal for us all without trying is defeat at our own hands we pay the union our sub's. We deserve better than this abortion of an agreement so aborted was it they have not even thought of half of it 18 months to come up with this pile of s**t!

[Jpro747]

it is what it is. there's nowt we can do about what he gets or who he is. thats the way its always been and probably will remain that way forever more. rico, moya, leighton, crozier were all payed thousands more than us, as are the directors of tesco, adsa, saisburys and airlines. its always them and us.

Why accept their terms and conditions they impose upon us? We are the union we should tell the union to go back get a better deal for us all without trying is defeat at our own hands we pay the union our sub's. We deserve better than this abortion of an agreement so aborted was it they have not even thought of half of it 18 months to come up with this pile of s**t!

RM and union leaders know all they have to do is dangle the £carrot and the members will vote yes. Then T&Cs get worse and the members moan why they get treated like s**t. Beggars belief.

[matthew68]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

Don't know where you're getting 25,000 but that's not right.

Err yes it is work it out

[matthew68]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

Don't know where you're getting 25,000 but that's not right.

full time delivery postie...basic pay £441.58 plus delivery supplement £25.65 plus £12.62 pay rise and another £4.79 pay rise in April = £484.64 top line (flat week) x by 52 weeks is £25,201.28. it would seem it is indeed right.

The sum is irrelevant it is what you can buy with it at the moment not much and the chancellor will recoup the out lay and he ani't looking at the rich.

oh for gods sake you wouldn’t be happy if you were paid 50 grand a year for this job , there are loads of people struggling like mad at the moment and your never happy , let’s face it we are well payed for unskilled work which isn’t exactly very challenging, yes it’s physically demanding and there are bad points but trust me there’s a helluva lot worse

[k979aaa]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

Don't know where you're getting 25,000 but that's not right.

full time delivery postie...basic pay £441.58 plus delivery supplement £25.65 plus £12.62 pay rise and another £4.79 pay rise in April = £484.64 top line (flat week) x by 52 weeks is £25,201.28. it would seem it is indeed right.

The sum is irrelevant it is what you can buy with it at the moment not much and the chancellor will recoup the out lay and he ani't looking at the rich.

oh for gods sake you wouldn’t be happy if you were paid 50 grand a year for this job , there are loads of people struggling like mad at the moment and your never happy , let’s face it we are well payed for unskilled work which isn’t exactly very challenging, yes it’s physically demanding and there are bad points but trust me there’s a helluva lot worse

Think of it like a footballer you cannot do this job for all your working life kicking a football is piss easy to doing this job for 25 to 40 years and dont tell me they have a skill!

[Grumpyoldmailman]

Think of it like a footballer you cannot do this job for all your working life kicking a football is piss easy to doing this job for 25 to 40 years and dont tell me they have a skill!

Why did you sign RM’s contract rather than Real Madrid’s?

[RTP]

Sorry kind of lost interest in all the arguing.

When do we get to vote on this?

[k979aaa]

Think of it like a footballer you cannot do this job for all your working life kicking a football is piss easy to doing this job for 25 to 40 years and dont tell me they have a skill!

Why did you sign RM’s contract rather than Real Madrid’s?

Did not like Spanish food.