Predict the outcome of the vote

[Zicomurphy]

Not asking how you intend to vote but what you think the outcome of the vote will be.

I think it will be a disappointingly low turn out but 71.2 per cent of those who vote will vote to accept the deal.

[Yamr1]

89% yes

[panzer4]

If it’s a no vote bet RM run to the court and get it made illegal

[noggin1969]

It'll be a hi

[chickenwittle]

It will be a massive yes vote as it always is . Once the union recommends it they are basically saying this is as good as it gets.

[Woody Guthrie]

The outcome of the vote will be a couple of weeks of back slapping, a month of pretending that we're all on the same page then 18 months of rapidly deteriorating relationships before Terry pops up and asks us to "Rise Up" again.

[billycat]

Listening to the views at my office massive yes vote, cannot wait for the revision.

[Rumple]

80/90% yes. But that should be taken as the members accepting that the CWU negotiating team are unable to get a better deal, rather than it being a good deal on offer.

[clashcityrocker]

The outcome of the vote will be a couple of weeks of back slapping, a month of pretending that we're all on the same page then 18 months of rapidly deteriorating relationships before Terry pops up and asks us to "Rise Up" again.

I think the timescales are up for debate.
I would go with one hour of backslapping, 4 hours of pretending we are on the same page and then 18 hours of rapidly deteriorating relationships before the deal is binned (I mean filed away next to the 4 pillows)

[cockneyrebel]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

[matthew68]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

[twoloops]

What vote? What we voting for? First I’ve heard of it?

[CillitBang]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

Don't know where you're getting 25,000 but that's not right.

[k979aaa]

The outcome will be a bad deal for us all as they will not provide the question first. Second even if the vote goes the wrong way they will have another vote or not have a vote but a committee. We will be back here in three years time debating the same s**t with the same leaders of the union and our lot will have got worse during that time!

[daveyeff]

i keep hearing this As good as it gets ??
Are any of you on here aware of the profit estimate for the last quarter of 2020 £125 million re some city friends of mine-conservative figure also !!
Add first quarter of this year again £100 million estimate re lockdown will continue through February and probably into March-no lket up in parcel quantities - therefore giving us much larger profit, than normal years
1% best we can hope for ????????????
Have a look at the bonuses to be paid out to hierachy re those figures-if achieved and they will be
No matter how many out of work/lost their jobs re Covid etc
National Average Wage in UK is STILL Just over £25, 000 per annum
We well short of that with 2.7 and 1% deals and never worked harder in our entire lives re this job, which will no doubt come at a cost to our future health ??
Company was listed in National Fiscal Studies report last March as having cash assets of £800 million in one acccount and 300 milllion in another ?
Even allowing for £40 million re PPE Tidy Sums !!!!!
Any of you note the 3 salaries and bonuses etc to the New CEO and the other 2 Board members ?? and the package given to Stuart Simpson re his departure ??
Hardly destitute are we ???
1% for the effore we put in -and lets face it-the profits re late 2020/early 2021 solely down to the footsoldiers
What Major Impact as any CEO had in the last 20 years re this organisation ??
Whilst I always accepted you have to have someone at the top of the tree (use to work in City of London )
It would be nice to think those 3 gentleman now with us will make a difference ??
But will they ??

full time postie will earn at least 25000 with new pay deals

Don't know where you're getting 25,000 but that's not right.

full time delivery postie...basic pay £441.58 plus delivery supplement £25.65 plus £12.62 pay rise and another £4.79 pay rise in April = £484.64 top line (flat week) x by 52 weeks is £25,201.28. it would seem it is indeed right.