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New shift patterns?

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k979aaa
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Re: New shift patterns?

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mags999 wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 19:50
will probably get shot down in flames but here goes mon - thurs for the majority of all full timers plus part timers and new fri - sunday shifts created probably 20 - 25 hour contracts like previous posts have said might suit a lot of people :Very Happy
What happens if all the part time staff left and you would have to do it!
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k979aaa wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 19:54
mags999 wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 19:50
will probably get shot down in flames but here goes mon - thurs for the majority of all full timers plus part timers and new fri - sunday shifts created probably 20 - 25 hour contracts like previous posts have said might suit a lot of people :Very Happy
What happens if all the part time staff left and you would have to do it!
Then you recruit more people that want to do it. This “you will HAVE to do it” is just nonsense doom and gloom rubbish.
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Re: New shift patterns?

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like i say maybe to tricky to work out but there must be someone out there that could make up some decent work patterns that would suit most possibly if they offered 3 or 4 vrs in each office would create an opportunity to make it work so they could employ new staff on shorter shifts :cool
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Re: New shift patterns?

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Maybe the revisions will include Sunday shifts so we only get the hour if we get Sunday covered at no extra cost to the office budget,
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Re: New shift patterns?

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Be fantastic for me mon - thur 9 1/2 hours a day wouldn't bother me at all over them 4 days
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Re: New shift patterns?

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comeracing wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 22:12
Be fantastic for me mon - thur 9 1/2 hours a day wouldn't bother me at all over them 4 days
Unfortunately it isn't that simple.
You have to be able to fill 9 1/2 hours with work.
Not what we think is 9 1/2 hours but what the computer thinks.
A big chunk of that will be outdoors.
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Re: New shift patterns?

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number one wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 20:03
k979aaa wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 19:54
mags999 wrote: ↑
27 Dec 2020, 19:50
will probably get shot down in flames but here goes mon - thurs for the majority of all full timers plus part timers and new fri - sunday shifts created probably 20 - 25 hour contracts like previous posts have said might suit a lot of people :Very Happy
What happens if all the part time staff left and you would have to do it!
Then you recruit more people that want to do it. This “you will HAVE to do it” is just nonsense doom and gloom rubbish.
May I humbly remind you that they can make you do it. I had to work Sundays many years ago and with less than £13 an hour!
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Re: New shift patterns?

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Will have to see what happens with regard to if they manage to make the switch to parcels only on saturdays as one person can cover several rounds worth of parcels

Might be a few different options:

Monday to friday 3 weeks out of 4 then perhaps having to do another week with 2 days off from Mon-Fri then working Saturday or sunday

Perhaps working Monday to friday one week then working say saturday on the 2nd week and sunday on the 4th and having a different day off them weeks

Also can depends on different peoples lifestyle preferences i for one would probably prefer to work 3 out of 4 sundays instead of saturdays as i prefer my sporting saturdays
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Re: New shift patterns?

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paul1231 wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 00:33
Will have to see what happens with regard to if they manage to make the switch to parcels only on saturdays as one person can cover several rounds worth of parcels

Might be a few different options:

Monday to friday 3 weeks out of 4 then perhaps having to do another week with 2 days off from Mon-Fri then working Saturday or sunday

Perhaps working Monday to friday one week then working say saturday on the 2nd week and sunday on the 4th and having a different day off them weeks

Also can depends on different peoples lifestyle preferences i for one would probably prefer to work 3 out of 4 sundays instead of saturdays as i prefer my sporting saturdays
They wont give a thump what suits you, or Harry or Bob or Susan, they will do what suits the business and is equal for all staff, the full time and part time staff will probably be put into equal groups (ie 20 part time, 5 full time in each group) and then run with a 4 on 4 off system. Each group will also rotate or float around each of those jobs so as the company can cover in any circumstance.No one will have a set duty.
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Re: New shift patterns?

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I think 5 in 7 contracts will become the norm for new starters. These then would become the majority in the business over a period of time as people on older contracts gradually retire or leave the business.
This would allow for a gradual transission to Sunday working as workload on that day increases with time.
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Re: New shift patterns?

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Marshamp11 wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 12:01
I think 5 in 7 contracts will become the norm for new starters. These then would become the majority in the business over a period of time as people on older contracts gradually retire or leave the business.
This would allow for a gradual transission to Sunday working as workload on that day increases with time.
Too slow if they're serious about growing the parcel business.
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Re: New shift patterns?

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Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 13:00
Marshamp11 wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 12:01
I think 5 in 7 contracts will become the norm for new starters. These then would become the majority in the business over a period of time as people on older contracts gradually retire or leave the business.
This would allow for a gradual transission to Sunday working as workload on that day increases with time.
Too slow if they're serious about growing the parcel business.
Hence why it will be offered out on overtime or voluntary
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Re: New shift patterns?

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number one wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 14:47
Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 13:00
Marshamp11 wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 12:01
I think 5 in 7 contracts will become the norm for new starters. These then would become the majority in the business over a period of time as people on older contracts gradually retire or leave the business.
This would allow for a gradual transission to Sunday working as workload on that day increases with time.
Too slow if they're serious about growing the parcel business.
Hence why it will be offered out on overtime or voluntary
If you believe what Martin Walsh wrote.
Royal Mail at the moment believe that unless our pay rate for Sunday changes that there is not a product worth advertising to the customer
So...
Sunday premium=no product
No Sunday premium=no volunteers

Can you see the problem?
Only dead fish follow the current
Shirtbuttons
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Re: New shift patterns?

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Reading the agreement it’s states Sunday working is voluntary (initially) . Make what you want from that but after many years that will be the final nail in the coffin for me. I will be gone even if I’m not at retirement age. It wasn’t long ago we were told these new times will make the job more family friendly. I’ve spend less time now with my family than in my first 20 enjoyable years. OT rates are very poor and I’ve noticed many long term good posties resign to go to other employment in the last 8 weeks. I’ve not seen this before.
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Re: New shift patterns?

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The business had people volunteer to work on Boxing day. If you don’t think people will volunteer to work Sundays you a very much mistaken