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26th December

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sindba
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Re: 26th December

Post by sindba »

SF wrote: ↑
08 Dec 2020, 18:56
sindba wrote: ↑
08 Dec 2020, 18:46
SF wrote: ↑
08 Dec 2020, 07:09
Totally unfair. Everybody else works 3 days Xmas week with a day off and boxing day, meanwhile people who's day off falls on boxing Day are working a 4 day week and have nothing to show for having to work an extra day. And someone can get paid for working their day off that week also!

Brainless union.
It might be unfair, but blame your employer, not the "union".

Royal Mail make the rules, not the CWU.
So what is the unions purpose then? Oh that's right, they are too busy working on their social media image and blowing important strike action with their crap.
:arrrghhh
Zicomurphy
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Re: 26th December

Post by Zicomurphy »

So I assume everyone would be a lot happier if they made the 26th a normal service day? All those who work nights can go back to work on Christmas Day night. Obviously it would ruin Christmas for a lot of us but at least it would be fair, right?
magicfinger
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Re: 26th December

Post by magicfinger »

This problem will persist next year with Christmas Day falling on a Saturday in 2021. :arrrghhh

Oh, and New Year's Day 2022 also a Saturday
sorefeet17
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Re: 26th December

Post by sorefeet17 »

The union wouldn't get anywhere with this, the majority of the workforce is effectively getting a free bank holiday, if the union challenges this there is more chance of none of us getting this in the future.
Any of us that have worked here for a while have been affected positively and negatively by this.
SF
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Re: 26th December

Post by SF »

Zicomurphy wrote: ↑
08 Dec 2020, 20:52
So I assume everyone would be a lot happier if they made the 26th a normal service day? All those who work nights can go back to work on Christmas Day night. Obviously it would ruin Christmas for a lot of us but at least it would be fair, right?
Just give your employees a day in leui for Christ sake. It's not that difficult. We work hard during Xmas, even more so during a pandemic.

Keep the work force happy by not short-changing them a day off. It's basic stuff.
Zicomurphy
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Re: 26th December

Post by Zicomurphy »

SF wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 17:17
Zicomurphy wrote: ↑
08 Dec 2020, 20:52
So I assume everyone would be a lot happier if they made the 26th a normal service day? All those who work nights can go back to work on Christmas Day night. Obviously it would ruin Christmas for a lot of us but at least it would be fair, right?
Just give your employees a day in leui for Christ sake. It's not that difficult. We work hard during Xmas, even more so during a pandemic.

Keep the work force happy by not short-changing them a day off. It's basic stuff.
Basic stuff that would cost the business well over £1 million I would imagine.

I’ve got the Saturday off that week. I don’t feel that I’m missing out or being treated unfairly. Royal Mail have made a business decision that benefits the majority of the workforce whilst having no negative impact on the remaining minority.
robbertwhitton
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Re: 26th December

Post by robbertwhitton »

Of course it’s right! Have we learnt nothing? It’s what they do,we really shouldn’t expect anything less should we?another morale bashing exercise,they never fail to deliver on things that that know won’t go down well with the troops at the sharp end,and as ever they aren’t fussed about it one bit!
priority102
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Re: 26th December

Post by priority102 »

I can see both sides of views to this, BUT....Royal Mail have requested to OFCOM that Saturday will be a Non Service Day. This means we all spend the day with our loved ones while still receivng a full days pay for it. There would have been nothing stopping them making us all work...and still get the same money.

For those thinking they're hard done by, spare a thought for the retail stores who WILL have to work Saturday for their money, whilst we enjoy it at home.
hero22
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Re: 26th December

Post by hero22 »

When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
P13
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Re: 26th December

Post by P13 »

hero22 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 22:41
When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
We are off Friday, Saturday and Monday, boxing day isn't a public holiday because it is a Saturday, Monday is the public holiday
hero22
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Re: 26th December

Post by hero22 »

P13 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 23:06
hero22 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 22:41
When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
We are off Friday, Saturday and Monday, boxing day isn't a public holiday because it is a Saturday, Monday is the public holiday
Cheers
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 26th December

Post by SpacePhoenix »

P13 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 23:06
hero22 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 22:41
When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
We are off Friday, Saturday and Monday, boxing day isn't a public holiday because it is a Saturday, Monday is the public holiday
If you work night shift then you'll be off Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. On the Monday going into Tuesday you'll be back in at midnight
tractorboy2
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Re: 26th December

Post by tractorboy2 »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2020, 06:55
P13 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 23:06
hero22 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 22:41
When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
We are off Friday, Saturday and Monday, boxing day isn't a public holiday because it is a Saturday, Monday is the public holiday
If you work night shift then you'll be off Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. On the Monday going into Tuesday you'll be back in at midnight
I told you SpacePhoenix that I will not be working the Bank Holiday Monday and nor will any of the Night Shift at my mail centre.
The only staff working normally are those that would attend on a Sunday night usually , and overtime volunteers though nothing has been posted up concerning this.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 26th December

Post by SpacePhoenix »

tractorboy2 wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2020, 07:07
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2020, 06:55
P13 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 23:06
hero22 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 22:41
When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
We are off Friday, Saturday and Monday, boxing day isn't a public holiday because it is a Saturday, Monday is the public holiday
If you work night shift then you'll be off Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. On the Monday going into Tuesday you'll be back in at midnight
I told you SpacePhoenix that I will not be working the Bank Holiday Monday and nor will any of the Night Shift at my mail centre.
The only staff working normally are those that would attend on a Sunday night usually , and overtime volunteers though nothing has been posted up concerning this.
ALL night shifts are required to resume on the Monday going into Tuesday. Most places will use volunteers but if not enough volunteer then they'll either have to chose some to come in or have everyone in. On the Monday night, one it gets to 00:00 on the Tuesday it's no longer a Bank Holiday

EDIT: http://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/2 ... .10.20.pdf
3.8To comply with the USO, Inland night shift operations should resume as required on Monday 28thDecember and Friday 1stJanuary (Saturday 2ndJanuary in Scotland) to meet service obligations. Staff required to attend within conditioned hours on Monday 28thDecember or on Friday 1stJanuary (Monday 4thJanuary in Scotland) will receive the Bank Holiday premium for each hour worked on the Bank Holidays. Where agreed night shift resourcing arrangements result in attendance beyond conditioned hours, staff will receive normal Bank Holiday rates (option A or B as appropriate) for the additional hours worked on the Bank Holiday (before Midnight) and normal overtime rates for hours worked out-with the Bank Holiday (after midnight).
tractorboy2
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Re: 26th December

Post by tractorboy2 »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2020, 07:27
tractorboy2 wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2020, 07:07
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2020, 06:55
P13 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 23:06
hero22 wrote: ↑
09 Dec 2020, 22:41
When would we ever have worked boxing day ? Has it not always been a public holiday and you get paid for it or day in lieu if its your day off ?

Just to confirm are we now off Saturday and the Monday ?
We are off Friday, Saturday and Monday, boxing day isn't a public holiday because it is a Saturday, Monday is the public holiday
If you work night shift then you'll be off Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. On the Monday going into Tuesday you'll be back in at midnight
I told you SpacePhoenix that I will not be working the Bank Holiday Monday and nor will any of the Night Shift at my mail centre.
The only staff working normally are those that would attend on a Sunday night usually , and overtime volunteers though nothing has been posted up concerning this.
ALL night shifts are required to resume on the Monday going into Tuesday. Most places will use volunteers but if not enough volunteer then they'll either have to chose some to come in or have everyone in. On the Monday night, one it gets to 00:00 on the Tuesday it's no longer a Bank Holiday
The same could be said for other bank holidays and we don't work them either.
Does your mail centre still do Sunday nights ?