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Poll : Is social distancing still happening?

Coronavirus discussion forum.

Is social distancing still happening in your office?

Yes still
28
1%
No
226
10%
Sometimes
97
4%
Yes at first but it's kinda ignored now by some
136
6%
Yes at first but it's completely ignored by all
65
3%
Never happened
80
4%
------enforcing----
0
No votes
Managers rigorously enforce it
10
0%
Managers enforce it now and again
100
4%
Managers never enforced it at the start
115
5%
Managers don't bother at all anymore
215
10%
----reminding----
1
0%
Managers reminded us about it every day (Tannoy/shout outs)
25
1%
Managers reminded us about it now and again (Tannoy/shout outs)
96
4%
Managers never remind us about it
256
11%
----Reps----
2
0%
Rep is on the ball regularly to us and management
43
2%
Rep has given up as it's a lost cause because of deaf ears from staff/management
127
6%
Rep never said/says anything about it
219
10%
----yourself----
1
0%
I regularly pull people up
48
2%
I've never done anything about it
94
4%
I used to complain/pull people up but I've given up
224
10%
I don't need to do anything as it's all ok and we're not stupid, selfish or covidiots
37
2%
 
Total votes: 2245

Cucumber
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POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:People taking their cars to delivery point - are they governed by the same same 1 person per vehicle rules?
No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
Sorry, I'm confused. Is it only RM branded vehicles that are 1 person per vehicle? People using their cars to get to delivery point should be doing so on their own, and NOT (for example) offering those who are walking to bus stop a lift to delivery point?

Thanks.
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Post by POSTMAN »

Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:People taking their cars to delivery point - are they governed by the same same 1 person per vehicle rules?
No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
Sorry, I'm confused. Is it only RM branded vehicles that are 1 person per vehicle? People using their cars to get to delivery point should be doing so on their own, and NOT (for example) offering those who are walking to bus stop a lift to delivery point?

Thanks.
Are you aware of the law...

The only people you do not have to distance yourself from are those you live with and those you have linked to in a support bubble.
People from different households must maintain social distancing throughout.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Cucumber
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Post by Cucumber »

POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:People taking their cars to delivery point - are they governed by the same same 1 person per vehicle rules?
No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
Sorry, I'm confused. Is it only RM branded vehicles that are 1 person per vehicle? People using their cars to get to delivery point should be doing so on their own, and NOT (for example) offering those who are walking to bus stop a lift to delivery point?

Thanks.
Are you aware of the law...

The only people you do not have to distance yourself from are those you live with and those you have linked to in a support bubble.
People from different households must maintain social distancing throughout.

I'm fully aware of the law/rules. I'm just concerned that others I need to work beside are flouting them during working hours.
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Post by POSTMAN »

Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:People taking their cars to delivery point - are they governed by the same same 1 person per vehicle rules?
No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
Sorry, I'm confused. Is it only RM branded vehicles that are 1 person per vehicle? People using their cars to get to delivery point should be doing so on their own, and NOT (for example) offering those who are walking to bus stop a lift to delivery point?

Thanks.
Are you aware of the law...

The only people you do not have to distance yourself from are those you live with and those you have linked to in a support bubble.
People from different households must maintain social distancing throughout.

I'm fully aware of the law/rules. I'm just concerned that others I need to work beside are flouting them during working hours.
Ok, contact coronavirus.advice@royalmail.com and info@cwu.org and see this thread where you may accidently find the email address of someone at HSE...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=96666" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Post by POSTMAN »

Nearly 200 no's.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
SpacePhoenix
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

Away from RM social distancing seems to be happening less and less
Cucumber
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Post by Cucumber »

POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:People taking their cars to delivery point - are they governed by the same same 1 person per vehicle rules?
No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
Sorry, I'm confused. Is it only RM branded vehicles that are 1 person per vehicle? People using their cars to get to delivery point should be doing so on their own, and NOT (for example) offering those who are walking to bus stop a lift to delivery point?

Thanks.
Are you aware of the law...

The only people you do not have to distance yourself from are those you live with and those you have linked to in a support bubble.
People from different households must maintain social distancing throughout.

I'm fully aware of the law/rules. I'm just concerned that others I need to work beside are flouting them during working hours.
Ok, contact coronavirus.advice@royalmail.com and info@cwu.org and see this thread where you may accidently find the email address of someone at HSE...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=96666" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for that. Sorry to be a pain, but are there any physical postal addresses I could contact these departments on?
Cluaran
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Joined: 03 Aug 2019, 23:23
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Post by Cluaran »

Never happened in my office! Posters went up and that was it, business as usual!!
rodtheplod
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Joined: 04 Apr 2017, 14:33
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Post by rodtheplod »

Social distancing can be difficult due to office layouts, but there is no excuse for no insisting on everyone wearing a face covering. Anyone with proven medical conditions that face covering are problematic could be exempt. However managers and staff alike working within 1ft of each other should be happening, like it does at the Masterick ofiice in Aberdeen.
rogersh
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Post by rogersh »

When I reminded an agency worker today, who attempted to work in a seg beside me, that the social distancing was still in force, she said that it had changed now!

The following two updates illustrate how confusion has arisen on the social distancing measure.

The first giving diagrams of how bullrings, conveyors, etc, should be set up to allow for 1m distancing with the aid of physical barriers & latter reminding to stay apart 2m "where possible"

EDIT;
LTB 386/20 – Revised Royal Mail Coronavirus/Covid-19 Risk Assessments Following Revised Social Distancing Government Guidance (2M to 1M)
No: 386/2020
20th July 2020
As part of the review three areas were identified where it was established that amendments to the current arrangements could be safely made, with mitigation.

– Bullrings
– Incline Conveyors
– In Cab Training –Large Fleet >3.5T

Revised SSOW have been agreed for these tasks, which maintain the commitment to social distancing with a reduction in certain circumstances from 2m to 1m, only where appropriate and with proper mitigation. Attached for the information of Branches are the revised safety documents highlighting the specific tasks and the necessary additional measures required to facilitate the change. Currently these changes only apply in England and Northern Ireland, as Government advice on social distancing in Scotland and Wales maintains the 2m criteria.


LTB 386/20
Annex A – COVID 19 Social Distancing in the Workplace – reducing to 1m (002)
Annex B – Copy of Final TBRA 2m to 1m Incline Conveyors and Bullring Operations v8.1
Annex C – SWI Three Person Incline Conveyor Operations 2m to 1m v2
Annex D – SWI Two Person Incline Conveyor Operations 2m to 1m v2
Annex E – SWI Four Person Bullring Operations 2m to 1m v2
Annex F – SWI Two Person Bullring Operations 2m to 1m v2
Annex G – Final Larger Vehicle_Sharing_Task Risk Assessment 2m to 1m v8
Annex H – SWI In-Cab Training ‘Large Vehicles’ v2





On myroyalmail site 30th July
Keep your distance
Reminder - social distancing must be maintained as a key preventative measure
Wherever possible STAY 2M APART
At present, the most important thing we can all do to help control coronavirus and save lives, is to keep our distance from people who are not from our own households.

Royal Mail supports Public Health England’s social distancing guidance around maintaining a two-metre distance between colleagues, where possible.

The current guidelines for social distancing form part of wider measures to minimise the risk of contracting Covid-19. We are doing what we can to make units across the business Covid-19 secure.

Please continue to follow the preventative guidance. This includes guidance on hand washing and hygiene Opens in a new window, as well as the use of wipes and disposable gloves.

Temporary changes to some operational processes including the one person per van rule, staggered shift times and meal breaks, the cancellation of WTLLs and changes to doorstep deliveries, remain in place.

For specific roles where the two-metre distancing rule is challenging, face coverings are being issued. It is not mandatory for colleagues to wear a face covering, however, they remain available through line managers for anyone who chooses to wear one.

Social distancing is everyone’s responsibility and it is important that we all work together to ensure all preventative guidance is adhered to.

30 Jul 2020
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Mr Rush
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Post by Mr Rush »

It's alright everyone! The DOM, ever the optimist, has declared "We're back to normality now". :crazy:
There's a local outbreak brewing, so I can't wait for the local lockdown.
The machine stops.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

rodtheplod wrote:Social distancing can be difficult due to office layouts, but there is no excuse for no insisting on everyone wearing a face covering. Anyone with proven medical conditions that face covering are problematic could be exempt. However managers and staff alike working within 1ft of each other should be happening, like it does at the Masterick ofiice in Aberdeen.
RM really need to insist on absolutely everyone wearing a mask or a face covering. It only needs 1 asymptomatic person to spread corona around an office
sindba
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Post by sindba »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
rodtheplod wrote:Social distancing can be difficult due to office layouts, but there is no excuse for no insisting on everyone wearing a face covering. Anyone with proven medical conditions that face covering are problematic could be exempt. However managers and staff alike working within 1ft of each other should be happening, like it does at the Masterick ofiice in Aberdeen.
RM really need to insist on absolutely everyone wearing a mask or a face covering. It only needs 1 asymptomatic person to spread corona around an office
Strong agree.

CWU should be pushing on this.
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When you look at the exemptions list a good few of the conditions would probably suffer a lot worse if they ever caught covid. I was reading today that we're only a couple of weeks behind Spain. The R number is basically 1 or a little higher everywhere and the number of cases per day is getting near 1,000. My gut feeling is that we're only 3-4 weeks away from another full lockdown
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Post by POSTMAN »

Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Cucumber wrote:People taking their cars to delivery point - are they governed by the same same 1 person per vehicle rules?
No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
Sorry, I'm confused. Is it only RM branded vehicles that are 1 person per vehicle? People using their cars to get to delivery point should be doing so on their own, and NOT (for example) offering those who are walking to bus stop a lift to delivery point?

Thanks.
Are you aware of the law...

The only people you do not have to distance yourself from are those you live with and those you have linked to in a support bubble.
People from different households must maintain social distancing throughout.

I'm fully aware of the law/rules. I'm just concerned that others I need to work beside are flouting them during working hours.
Ok, contact coronavirus.advice@royalmail.com and info@cwu.org and see this thread where you may accidently find the email address of someone at HSE...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=96666" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for that. Sorry to be a pain, but are there any physical postal addresses I could contact these departments on?

Royal Mail:
100 Victoria Embankment London EC4Y 0HQ
CWU:
150 The Broadway Wimbledon, SW19 1RX
HSE:
Various depending on location, search 'HSE address' in Google.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.