tnt cries foul

Post by **evilc** » 04 Dec 2007, 06:21

Dutch Postal Operator Calls For Liberalisation Delay
03 December 2007 by Mark White

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The intruduction of a minimum wage for postal workers in Germany is creating waves in neighbouring holland. TNT has asked for a delay in the Dutch postal deregulation agenda as it says the increased costs it will now face in Germany will have serious implications in terms of its ability to be ready for deregulation on its home turf.

TNT argues that it now faces an unlevel playing field and is calling for an emergency break whilst it rethinks its plans. The minimum postal wage was agreed in Germany after Deutshe Poste complained that competitors threatened their ability to compete through paying lower wages to employees.

The UK still relies on an existing minimum wage across all sectors but the disparity in wage levels for postal workers across Europe could have implications for all postal providers looking to compete with operators in other countries. With profit levels dependent on running costs, a big part of which is wages, the problem could extend to other countries and make postal liberalisation more difficult to achieve. Postal Liberalisation has already been delayed by up to five years in some European countries.

I do not see them complaining in the uk,perhaps they do not mind a unlevel playing field when it goes in their favour.

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 04 Dec 2007, 07:25

will RM be moving into europe when libralisation opens up over there?
Perhaps thats where the flexibility deal comes in, working in different areas of the business, in different countries

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 04 Dec 2007, 10:15

RM tried this under Consignia, and got it's fingers burn't. Mainly because liberlaisation hadn't happened and they spent their surplus cash on small companies. RM also had no history of buying and merging businesses.

Leighton has made it clear that RM has no strategic intention to do this. I think his thinking is to get their own house in order, privatise and then consider foreign investment. You shouldn't be investing overseas until your own backyard is secure. BT has managed to do this, so it's not such a crazy plan.

It should also be pointed out that whilst TNT are securing considerable volumes in this country they are not making considerable profit margins and neither is Businesspost or DHL. It's a myth that they are making lots of money, the only winners so far have been large customers.

I expect once the modernisation programme is complete RM will be sold off, or put into a partnership situation.

F0zz

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 04 Dec 2007, 12:22

F0zziebear wrote:
I expect once the modernisation programme is complete RM will be sold off, or put into a partnership situation.

F0zz

WOW! I can't wait, FOzz. What a great day that'll be, postal workers will be better paid, their final salary pensions secured, and Joe public will have a
reliable service second to none.

Strange thing, I just cannot seem to get excited at the machinations of so-called businessmen, of whom, I would rather run a marathon a day, then have them arrange the xmas piss-up for our office.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 04 Dec 2007, 14:20

k66yla wrote:will RM be moving into europe when libralisation opens up over there?
Perhaps thats where the flexibility deal comes in, working in different areas of the business, in different countries

I'll take a fortnights flexibility in Tenerife

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 04 Dec 2007, 14:59

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
k66yla wrote:will RM be moving into europe when libralisation opens up over there?
Perhaps thats where the flexibility deal comes in, working in different areas of the business, in different countries
I'll take a fortnights flexibility in Tenerife

I'll do the Specials for Magaleuf

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 04 Dec 2007, 15:00

Knowing my luck I'll get Kosovo

davidessex · Post by **davidessex** » 04 Dec 2007, 19:12

hope i don,t get sent up north !!!

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 04 Dec 2007, 19:51

BELIAL wrote:Knowing my luck I'll get Kosovo

Could be worse you could get Liverpool (cue IWW)

Post by **Carnoustie** » 04 Dec 2007, 20:05

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:I'll take a fortnights flexibility in Tenerife

Alas, after the Yes vote, Al and Adam say you'll get unlimited flexibility in Uranus

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 04 Dec 2007, 20:15

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:Knowing my luck I'll get Kosovo
Could be worse you could get Liverpool (cue IWW)

Well, you might get shot, but at least it won't be because someone thinks you're the wrong religion.

Yours for a 32 County Socialist Republic!

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 04 Dec 2007, 20:15

well ive put a transfer in to ibiza as an a european citizan i can work anywhere. oooh cant wait for that sun on me bones and the afternoon lie ins

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 04 Dec 2007, 20:16

blackadder wrote:well ive put a transfer in to ibiza as an a european citizan i can work anywhere. oooh cant wait for that sun on me bones and the afternoon lie ins

Stick with Royal Mail mate. The way the starts are getting later and later, you'll be on 3 pm to 11 pm SDD before you know it.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 04 Dec 2007, 21:16

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:Knowing my luck I'll get Kosovo
Could be worse you could get Liverpool (cue IWW)
Well, you might get shot, but at least it won't be because someone thinks you're the wrong religion.

Yours for a 32 County Socialist Republic!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6NNxAQ2KA

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 04 Dec 2007, 21:21

Never mentioned being a toffees fan

ROYALMAILCHAT

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