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Re: QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT

On 8 Oct 07

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 8w0073.htm

[center]Royal Mail: Cars[/center]

Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform how many private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles are used by the Royal Mail in the dispatch of mail. [154194]

Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.

Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform what assessment he has made of the level of usage of private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles by the Royal Mail to relay mailbags to postmen and women in the course of their rounds; and what guidance applies to the Royal Mail in terms of the security of such vehicles. [154195]

Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
Teebs obliged if you would consider PM me with your Email address as I have further stuff on the issue of Private Cars on Delivery that I think you will enjoy reading. It's an 18 page A4 PDF document.
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Post by leiwolf »

L Tommo wrote:
leiwolf wrote:Tis why i use a bike (even tho the chain keep coming off) and its even great when i can refuse to do a round because the no bags drops on them.

BOOOOTIFULL BOOOOOOOOTIFUL MY SON... Thats how to take the fight to RM ..

Put the ball back in there court..

OUT :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
Wel we can't do the job if they don't give us the tools to do it. What would you call a safe bag drop by the way, and please don't say someone front garden, or their bin or an open barn in the middle of nowhere*L*
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Re: QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT

On 8 Oct 07

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 8w0073.htm

[center]Royal Mail: Cars[/center]

Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform how many private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles are used by the Royal Mail in the dispatch of mail. [154194]

Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.

Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform what assessment he has made of the level of usage of private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles by the Royal Mail to relay mailbags to postmen and women in the course of their rounds; and what guidance applies to the Royal Mail in terms of the security of such vehicles. [154195]

Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
Very good - but has he replied? We should be writing to the transport 2000 people and Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace and anyone else interested in the issue of carbon emissions. Mind no doubt some Government lackey would be wheeled out to say it was the equivalent of 10 cows farting.
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Re: QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT

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dvbuk55 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT

On 8 Oct 07

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 8w0073.htm

[center]Royal Mail: Cars[/center]

Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform how many private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles are used by the Royal Mail in the dispatch of mail. [154194]

Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.

Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform what assessment he has made of the level of usage of private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles by the Royal Mail to relay mailbags to postmen and women in the course of their rounds; and what guidance applies to the Royal Mail in terms of the security of such vehicles. [154195]

Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
Very good - but has he replied? We should be writing to the transport 2000 people and Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace and anyone else interested in the issue of carbon emissions. Mind no doubt some Government lackey would be wheeled out to say it was the equivalent of 10 cows farting.
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Post by L Tommo »

leiwolf wrote:
L Tommo wrote:
leiwolf wrote:Tis why i use a bike (even tho the chain keep coming off) and its even great when i can refuse to do a round because the no bags drops on them.

BOOOOTIFULL BOOOOOOOOTIFUL MY SON... Thats how to take the fight to RM ..

Put the ball back in there court..

OUT :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
Wel we can't do the job if they don't give us the tools to do it. What would you call a safe bag drop by the way, and please don't say someone front garden, or their bin or an open barn in the middle of nowhere*L*
Make you 100% correct... I cant stand screws who tell you to do something and they know they wouldnt do it themselves...

Bag drops supposed to be secure... IE in a known trusted place either under lock n key that postie has or shop that had been vetted.. Not some old codgers gaff or park bench..

WOT A FECKING LIBERTY!!!

OUT :crazy:
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Cars on Delivery

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Further info found in the NEWS forum under Cars on Delivery - Freedom of Information Act Decision. :cuppa :cuppa :cuppa
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Post by leiwolf »

L Tommo wrote:
leiwolf wrote:
L Tommo wrote:
leiwolf wrote:Tis why i use a bike (even tho the chain keep coming off) and its even great when i can refuse to do a round because the no bags drops on them.

BOOOOTIFULL BOOOOOOOOTIFUL MY SON... Thats how to take the fight to RM ..

Put the ball back in there court..

OUT :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
Wel we can't do the job if they don't give us the tools to do it. What would you call a safe bag drop by the way, and please don't say someone front garden, or their bin or an open barn in the middle of nowhere*L*
Make you 100% correct... I cant stand screws who tell you to do something and they know they wouldnt do it themselves...

Bag drops supposed to be secure... IE in a known trusted place either under lock n key that postie has or shop that had been vetted.. Not some old codgers gaff or park bench..

WOT A FECKING LIBERTY!!!

OUT :crazy:
What worries me is that most of the safe drops they got ain't that safe, ie someone doorway, front garden, bin and yes even a barn in the middle of nowhere. I am on a two year suspended thingie (where i got to be a good boy for two years,) because I left a bundle of mail in my pannies on my bike and the bike was stolen. Got it back within half a hour, but the manager and the police got involved. Twas my fault, so i held my hand up and took the punishment. But what would happen if one of my bags went missing at what is meant to be a secure bag drop area, but in reality in someone front garden behind a bin? Would they get suspended or in trouble or will I get in trouble? That is the one queston, not one manager would ever answer
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Post by L Tommo »

Answer to your Question,,,, NO WOULD THEY FECK BE BOLLOCK'D RM would blame you n me....


RM A GREAT PLACE TO WORK!!!


OUT :lfo :cfo :crazy:
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Post by hackedoff »

Our office gets conduct code for using cars if you're caught. Has done for years............ :lfo :cfo
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Post by ruralpostie »

We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course :Very Happy ). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya :evil/mad
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Post by k979aaa »

ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course :Very Happy ). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya :evil/mad
Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.
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Post by ruralpostie »

k979aaa wrote:
ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course :Very Happy ). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya :evil/mad
Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.
Drivers gone and finished by the time i'm done...Pouching off?..not sure what you mean by that? sorry for being thick!! :hmmmm Thanks for your ideas anyhow
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ruralpostie wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course :Very Happy ). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya :evil/mad
Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.
Drivers gone and finished by the time i'm done...Pouching off?..not sure what you mean by that? sorry for being thick!! :hmmmm Thanks for your ideas anyhow
Pouching off is when you put your returned mail, signing cards, keys etc. into a PO (in the blue pouch bag), ask your DUM and union rep about it.
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verry safe bag drop

Post by oldrope »

In the old days when i was a D O man my 3rd bag was at the local postoffice on my walk! picture this snow on the ground verry slipy under foot; you know how is. did not get to the PO till 12:45, guess what po shut. only did a 3rd of my walk that Saturday...
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Post by ruralpostie »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
ruralpostie wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course :Very Happy ). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya :evil/mad
Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.
Drivers gone and finished by the time i'm done...Pouching off?..not sure what you mean by that? sorry for being thick!! :hmmmm Thanks for your ideas anyhow
Pouching off is when you put your returned mail, signing cards, keys etc. into a PO (in the blue pouch bag), ask your DUM and union rep about it.
There is no PO now in the village..Only a Postbox.. Been a postie 15 years and at 3 different delivery offices and never had to pouch off!!.. Learn something new everyday eh!! :Very Happy
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