Teebs obliged if you would consider PM me with your Email address as I have further stuff on the issue of Private Cars on Delivery that I think you will enjoy reading. It's an 18 page A4 PDF document.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT
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Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform how many private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles are used by the Royal Mail in the dispatch of mail. [154194]
Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform what assessment he has made of the level of usage of private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles by the Royal Mail to relay mailbags to postmen and women in the course of their rounds; and what guidance applies to the Royal Mail in terms of the security of such vehicles. [154195]
Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
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Wel we can't do the job if they don't give us the tools to do it. What would you call a safe bag drop by the way, and please don't say someone front garden, or their bin or an open barn in the middle of nowhere*L*L Tommo wrote:leiwolf wrote:Tis why i use a bike (even tho the chain keep coming off) and its even great when i can refuse to do a round because the no bags drops on them.
BOOOOTIFULL BOOOOOOOOTIFUL MY SON... Thats how to take the fight to RM ..
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Very good - but has he replied? We should be writing to the transport 2000 people and Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace and anyone else interested in the issue of carbon emissions. Mind no doubt some Government lackey would be wheeled out to say it was the equivalent of 10 cows farting.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT
On 8 Oct 07
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 8w0073.htm
[center]Royal Mail: Cars[/center]
Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform how many private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles are used by the Royal Mail in the dispatch of mail. [154194]
Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform what assessment he has made of the level of usage of private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles by the Royal Mail to relay mailbags to postmen and women in the course of their rounds; and what guidance applies to the Royal Mail in terms of the security of such vehicles. [154195]
Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
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:cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo !dvbuk55 wrote:Very good - but has he replied? We should be writing to the transport 2000 people and Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace and anyone else interested in the issue of carbon emissions. Mind no doubt some Government lackey would be wheeled out to say it was the equivalent of 10 cows farting.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED IN PARLIAMENT
On 8 Oct 07
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 8w0073.htm
[center]Royal Mail: Cars[/center]
Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform how many private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles are used by the Royal Mail in the dispatch of mail. [154194]
Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
Mr. MacNeil: To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform what assessment he has made of the level of usage of private cars or other non-liveried or dedicated vehicles by the Royal Mail to relay mailbags to postmen and women in the course of their rounds; and what guidance applies to the Royal Mail in terms of the security of such vehicles. [154195]
Mr. McFadden: This is an operational matter for Royal Mail. Adam Crozier the Chief Executive has been asked to reply direct to the hon. Member.
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Make you 100% correct... I cant stand screws who tell you to do something and they know they wouldnt do it themselves...leiwolf wrote:Wel we can't do the job if they don't give us the tools to do it. What would you call a safe bag drop by the way, and please don't say someone front garden, or their bin or an open barn in the middle of nowhere*L*L Tommo wrote:leiwolf wrote:Tis why i use a bike (even tho the chain keep coming off) and its even great when i can refuse to do a round because the no bags drops on them.
BOOOOTIFULL BOOOOOOOOTIFUL MY SON... Thats how to take the fight to RM ..
Put the ball back in there court..
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Bag drops supposed to be secure... IE in a known trusted place either under lock n key that postie has or shop that had been vetted.. Not some old codgers gaff or park bench..
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What worries me is that most of the safe drops they got ain't that safe, ie someone doorway, front garden, bin and yes even a barn in the middle of nowhere. I am on a two year suspended thingie (where i got to be a good boy for two years,) because I left a bundle of mail in my pannies on my bike and the bike was stolen. Got it back within half a hour, but the manager and the police got involved. Twas my fault, so i held my hand up and took the punishment. But what would happen if one of my bags went missing at what is meant to be a secure bag drop area, but in reality in someone front garden behind a bin? Would they get suspended or in trouble or will I get in trouble? That is the one queston, not one manager would ever answerL Tommo wrote:Make you 100% correct... I cant stand screws who tell you to do something and they know they wouldnt do it themselves...leiwolf wrote:Wel we can't do the job if they don't give us the tools to do it. What would you call a safe bag drop by the way, and please don't say someone front garden, or their bin or an open barn in the middle of nowhere*L*L Tommo wrote:leiwolf wrote:Tis why i use a bike (even tho the chain keep coming off) and its even great when i can refuse to do a round because the no bags drops on them.
BOOOOTIFULL BOOOOOOOOTIFUL MY SON... Thats how to take the fight to RM ..
Put the ball back in there court..
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We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course
). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya
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Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya
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Drivers gone and finished by the time i'm done...Pouching off?..not sure what you mean by that? sorry for being thick!!k979aaa wrote:Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell ya
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Pouching off is when you put your returned mail, signing cards, keys etc. into a PO (in the blue pouch bag), ask your DUM and union rep about it.ruralpostie wrote:Drivers gone and finished by the time i'm done...Pouching off?..not sure what you mean by that? sorry for being thick!!k979aaa wrote:Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell yaThanks for your ideas anyhow
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verry safe bag drop
In the old days when i was a D O man my 3rd bag was at the local postoffice on my walk! picture this snow on the ground verry slipy under foot; you know how is. did not get to the PO till 12:45, guess what po shut. only did a 3rd of my walk that Saturday...
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There is no PO now in the village..Only a Postbox.. Been a postie 15 years and at 3 different delivery offices and never had to pouch off!!.. Learn something new everyday eh!!disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Pouching off is when you put your returned mail, signing cards, keys etc. into a PO (in the blue pouch bag), ask your DUM and union rep about it.ruralpostie wrote:Drivers gone and finished by the time i'm done...Pouching off?..not sure what you mean by that? sorry for being thick!!k979aaa wrote:Can you not pouch off or if's to big get your driver to take it back.ruralpostie wrote:We are in a situation where as an SPDO closed down and the sorting has gone to the nearest town. We now have to travel in our own vehicles out to the village concerned and it really pisses me off because my wife takes me to work sometimes if she needs the car for the day then picks me up OR if weathers nice I go on 2 wheels to work (coupled up to a fair sized engine of course). So I'm in a situation where its awkward for me not to take the car to work. The mail is dropped out to the village by van as the insurance won't cover me to carry mail, but I have problems when it comes to bringing mail back...
I've asked my manager for a van but they have said no chance as the budget won't allow one, but in my opinion if the job canot be done effectively without one, whats the issue...Its a right cock up I tell yaThanks for your ideas anyhow
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