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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes – Operational Guidelines
No: 239/2020
1st May 2020
For the Immediate Attention of All:
Postal Branches
Divisional Representatives
Area Delivery Representatives
Area Processing Representatives
Area Distribution Representatives
Dear Colleagues
Temporary USO Changes – Operational Guidelines
Further to LTB 238/20 published this afternoon on the commitments secured around the temporary changes to the USO regarding the non-delivery of letters on a Saturday until the 13th of June, for the information of Branches and Representatives, attached are the operational Guidelines agreed with the business.
Building on the commitments contained within the correspondence included in LTB 238/20 these guidelines clarify the safeguards and the process for discussions and should be used to guide local engagement on any proposed changes.
Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to Mark Baulch, Assistant Secretary, email: outdoorsecretary@cwu.org quoting reference: 230.03.
or
Davie Robertson, Assistant Secretary, email: dwyatt@cwu.org quoting reference: 014.14.
Yours sincerely
Mark Baulch – Assistant Secretary
Davie Robertson – Assistant Secretary
LTB 239.20 – Temporary USO Changes – Operational Guidelines https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-miubdk-jtfltzjh-i/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Final – Operational Guidelines -Interim Changes to Delivery and Saturday Parcels Services 1 May 2020 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-miubdk-jtfltzjh-d/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
View Online https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-miubdk-jtfltzjh-h/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No: 239/2020
1st May 2020
For the Immediate Attention of All:
Postal Branches
Divisional Representatives
Area Delivery Representatives
Area Processing Representatives
Area Distribution Representatives
Dear Colleagues
Temporary USO Changes – Operational Guidelines
Further to LTB 238/20 published this afternoon on the commitments secured around the temporary changes to the USO regarding the non-delivery of letters on a Saturday until the 13th of June, for the information of Branches and Representatives, attached are the operational Guidelines agreed with the business.
Building on the commitments contained within the correspondence included in LTB 238/20 these guidelines clarify the safeguards and the process for discussions and should be used to guide local engagement on any proposed changes.
Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to Mark Baulch, Assistant Secretary, email: outdoorsecretary@cwu.org quoting reference: 230.03.
or
Davie Robertson, Assistant Secretary, email: dwyatt@cwu.org quoting reference: 014.14.
Yours sincerely
Mark Baulch – Assistant Secretary
Davie Robertson – Assistant Secretary
LTB 239.20 – Temporary USO Changes – Operational Guidelines https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-miubdk-jtfltzjh-i/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Final – Operational Guidelines -Interim Changes to Delivery and Saturday Parcels Services 1 May 2020 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-miubdk-jtfltzjh-d/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
View Online https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-miubdk-jtfltzjh-h/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
This....

Then this....There will be no imposed duty changes connected with this temporary relaxation of the USO. Any changes to these duty structures will be voluntary and must be agreed locally, utilising the IR Framework
Funny as....If no agreement can be reached existing duty structures and attendance times will remain in place and unchanged, however the focus of the Saturday delivery operation will remain on parcels only. Annual Leave Reserves in this case will be re-aligned to Monday – Friday attendances to enhance USO coverage.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Woody Guthrie
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This document is dated Friday 1st May but at 5pm on Thursday 30th of April Terry was giving his big war speech.
It's almost as if they had this already in the inside pocket of their sharp suits.
Either that or you believe Rico got the word on Thursday night in Switzerland knocked off his letter to Dave who was busy knocking off a letter to Ofcom and meeting one of Boris's mates who both knocked off letters to Dave and Rico and then they all went on Zoom and knocked this off on what was left of Friday afternoon despite the fact that up until then none of them were even talking to each other.
Thats damm impressive, I can't even be arsed walking the dog on Friday afternoon.
It's almost as if they had this already in the inside pocket of their sharp suits.
Either that or you believe Rico got the word on Thursday night in Switzerland knocked off his letter to Dave who was busy knocking off a letter to Ofcom and meeting one of Boris's mates who both knocked off letters to Dave and Rico and then they all went on Zoom and knocked this off on what was left of Friday afternoon despite the fact that up until then none of them were even talking to each other.
Thats damm impressive, I can't even be arsed walking the dog on Friday afternoon.
Only dead fish follow the current
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A2B
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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
As a last resort temporary measure I don't see that much of a problem with it. Non duty holding reserves are scarce in our area.Woody Guthrie wrote:This....Then this....There will be no imposed duty changes connected with this temporary relaxation of the USO. Any changes to these duty structures will be voluntary and must be agreed locally, utilising the IR FrameworkFunny as....If no agreement can be reached existing duty structures and attendance times will remain in place and unchanged, however the focus of the Saturday delivery operation will remain on parcels only. Annual Leave Reserves in this case will be re-aligned to Monday – Friday attendances to enhance USO coverage.
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Woody Guthrie
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All reserves are non duty holding.Non duty holding reserves are scarce in our area.
The clue is in the name.
Do you mean that reserves are scarce in your area?
Only dead fish follow the current
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A2B
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Yes , all staff taken on for the last 12 months or so are in a pool so can be sent to any office in the area as needed but we have a couple who cover certain Waddington weeks on a regular basisWoody Guthrie wrote:All reserves are non duty holding.Non duty holding reserves are scarce in our area.
The clue is in the name.
Do you mean that reserves are scarce in your area?
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scoobydo79
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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
Wow please don’t tell Me Guys are still being sent to different offices?Surely not wise with a bloody virus that’s easily transferred person to person. 
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There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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A2B
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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
I'm certainly not arguing, if anything i'm pleased for them as they struggle to get saturdays offclashcityrocker wrote:There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
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Murdoch
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Nobody is arguing, what the hell you on about?clashcityrocker wrote:There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
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PJ101
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If everyone is in we do not have enough vans. How is this to be addressed?
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Woody Guthrie
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The point is one part of the office is protected by an agreement and the other, surprisingly enough leave reserves again... is not.clashcityrocker wrote:There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
I doubt the actual clause will be used but f**k me that's blatant.
Only dead fish follow the current
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clashcityrocker
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So the CWU didn't threaten strike action over the removal of the Saturday letter delivery?Murdoch wrote:Nobody is arguing, what the hell you on about?clashcityrocker wrote:There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
There aren't posts on this board by people saying they won't move their rotational day off to accommodate this? They won't play into Rico's hands?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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LouBarlow
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LTB 239/20 - Temporary USO Changes - Operational Guidelines
There is a difference between changing your rotational day off and having duty structures torn up. We were being told initially that our 9 day fortnights were becoming flat 5 day weeks (with no changes to delivery), our job shares were going etc, as well as our finish times being moved to a later time. Perhaps not an issue for you, but a major upheaval for people who need to finish at a certain time to maintain some semblance of a life outside of Royal Mail.clashcityrocker wrote:So the CWU didn't threaten strike action over the removal of the Saturday letter delivery?Murdoch wrote:Nobody is arguing, what the hell you on about?clashcityrocker wrote:There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
There aren't posts on this board by people saying they won't move their rotational day off to accommodate this? They won't play into Rico's hands?
All your posts on this board seem to be contrary for the sake of being contrary. If you were that content, it would seem odd that you would be here at all, if you think that message boards are just people 'arguing'.
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Murdoch
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Who's arguing? For real man, what on earth are you talking about.clashcityrocker wrote:So the CWU didn't threaten strike action over the removal of the Saturday letter delivery?Murdoch wrote:Nobody is arguing, what the hell you on about?clashcityrocker wrote:There is 30 000+ dead.
Hundreds of thousands looking at losing their livelihoods.
And we are arguing about some people being given extra Saturdays off.
f***ing embarrassing.
There aren't posts on this board by people saying they won't move their rotational day off to accommodate this? They won't play into Rico's hands?
None of this is related to people arguing about people getting extra Saturdays off...
Also, shall we just bring the 30,000 deaths into everything now? I DELIVERED COAT HANGERS TODAY!!!! AND THERE ARE PEOPLE DYING!!!!! f***ing EMBARRASSING!!!!