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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:We are leaving 1st and 2nd class letters and large letters.
And 40 000 of your work mates that will lose their jobs.
You are preaching to the already converted.
How do you get 1/3 of the workforce by dropping a day off the working week?
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Post by LouBarlow »

So if this starts the week commencing 2nd May, they have plenty of time to draw up new duties and work out rotes for days off and all the other minor details that this bombshell announcement requires? Oh no wait, they have less than a week.

Amazing. If the union f***s this up, I'm done.
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LouBarlow wrote:So if this starts the week commencing 2nd May, they have plenty of time to draw up new duties and work out rotes for days off and all the other minor details that this bombshell announcement requires? Oh no wait, they have less than a week.

Amazing. If the union f***s this up, I'm done.
2nd is this Saturday! New attendances starting the 11th I think. So I'm guessing we wing it this Saturday and next but then it will all be absolutely spot on and really well worked out after a full week of solving all the thousands of problems/issues this will throw up
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citypostie wrote:
LouBarlow wrote:So if this starts the week commencing 2nd May, they have plenty of time to draw up new duties and work out rotes for days off and all the other minor details that this bombshell announcement requires? Oh no wait, they have less than a week.

Amazing. If the union f***s this up, I'm done.
2nd is this Saturday! New attendances starting the 11th I think. So I'm guessing we wing it this Saturday and next but then it will all be absolutely spot on and really well worked out after a full week of solving all the thousands of problems/issues this will throw up
Next Friday is bank holiday too.
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So do part timers work less days? Do staff get more saturdays off? Do we all come in Saturday but do a smaller shift? These are some of the questions we dont know.
If they cut 20-30k jobs then who goes first? Last in first out, older full timers, non drivers? There doesn't seem to be any clarity kn anything. Horrible feeling for all.
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Post by sindba »

First out the door - people isolating / sick because of the virus?

They wouldn't, they couldn't.........could they..?
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deltaforce wrote:
seaside wrote:So drivers have responsibility of driving all the time are always expected to do large parcels and now non drivers can have every Saturday off. drivers don't get pay a penny extra for driving, think now I would prefer to be non driver much less hassle
Not sure where it mentions about non drivers!
A non driver isn't much use to you if you're not delivering letters.
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Post by HTPostman »

So many questions....

If it’s the duty holders week off, who will do it? Surely there’s a reason right there to keep staff over than duty holders and day off cover on the books.

Those doing 4 day weeks who don’t drive for Royal Mail (we have some who get every Weds+Thurs off) - will they just be doing Mon, Tues, Fri then indoor work Sat? Contract change?

As one of those ‘last in’ (in an office of 170 ish I’m prob about 155 on the seniority list), I’ll repeat what I’ve said for a while now: at the end of all this, all I want is a job. If it means starting in the afternoon, having all overtime cut, never getting a Saturday off so be it, I’ll live with that. I just want to keep my job:
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

rambo1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:We are leaving 1st and 2nd class letters and large letters.
And 40 000 of your work mates that will lose their jobs.
You are preaching to the already converted.
How do you get 1/3 of the workforce by dropping a day off the working week?
He exaggerated - 40,000 would be nearly 1/2 of everyone on deliveries. But the actual accuracy of the figures is less important at the moment than what the end game is.
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citypostie wrote:
LouBarlow wrote:So if this starts the week commencing 2nd May, they have plenty of time to draw up new duties and work out rotes for days off and all the other minor details that this bombshell announcement requires? Oh no wait, they have less than a week.

Amazing. If the union f***s this up, I'm done.
2nd is this Saturday! New attendances starting the 11th I think. So I'm guessing we wing it this Saturday and next but then it will all be absolutely spot on and really well worked out after a full week of solving all the thousands of problems/issues this will throw up
This is how I see it.

Phase 1. Probably correct there. Wing the first 2 Saturdays.

Phase 2. Shorter Saturdays, longer attendance Mon, Wed, Thur.

Phase 3. Job losses.
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Post by General Mannerheim »

toonshola wrote:
Grumpyoldmailman wrote:
taurus88 wrote:It does beg the question of what exactly the union is doing at present.
We will find out at 5pm
I’m gunna predict an angry Pullinger rant followed by 5 days of radio silence. CWU have been played by Royal Mail for the last 2 years and it’s become clear they have no response to anything apart from the patronising BS national postal workers day. Worrying times all round.
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More or less spot on . Except this time he's got Uncle Dave to write the strongly worded letter to various people who don't give a s**t about any of us.
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Post by hans solo »

Should all be out on the street tmrrw guys
This is a massive stitch up from rm
We’ve helped them out so far with the cov 19 probs
This is our reward. Job losses
No more vehicles on delivery
No more early late starts
No more work from home
Time to get together and demand our rights
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Post by guardianangel »

postiewhite wrote:So do part timers work less days? Do staff get more saturdays off? Do we all come in Saturday but do a smaller shift? These are some of the questions we dont know.
If they cut 20-30k jobs then who goes first? Last in first out, older full timers, non drivers? There doesn't seem to be any clarity kn anything. Horrible feeling for all.
Ill go i had a gutful
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Post by 1560loopsayear »

I don't think the public would appreciate us taking any widespread industrial action now, in current times. They won't get bogged down with the finer details of what we are up against with Rico and his henchmen. If the 6 day USO goes, it's a slippery slope down from that point. Parcel dominated on steadily falling terms and conditions. Trust him to take advantage of these difficult times and cast it off as 'helping' us out.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
deltaforce wrote:
seaside wrote:So drivers have responsibility of driving all the time are always expected to do large parcels and now non drivers can have every Saturday off. drivers don't get pay a penny extra for driving, think now I would prefer to be non driver much less hassle
Not sure where it mentions about non drivers!
A non driver isn't much use to you if you're not delivering letters.
Non drivers could be prepping parcels into yorks for Saturday delivery and mail into frames for Monday delivery ?