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Pegasus?

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Fluke
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Pegasus?

Post by Fluke »

Can anyone confirm that it is an agreed work tool? If so when was it agreed and are there any details on its use? We were told today that using Pegasus will mean the loss of 13 jobs in our office with some walks having nearly 1000 drops on them. :shock:
mrlovepantsuk
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Post by mrlovepantsuk »

it is now called geo routing, we have been using it for the last 3 or 4 weeks. it isnt going too smoothly on some rounds at the moment, it will take a bit of time getting used to the new sorting and rounds.
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Prgasus/geo route

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As a rep I have asked for this in the dly revision in my office but the dom WON'T use it! I have asked a manager who is now back on dly's why and he said that if it was used in my office they would have to put hours BACK IN !! Royal Mail asked for this tool and it was agreed by the union but it seems that it is so effective at working out delivery routes you would need to put more hours in !! HA HA HA
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wakkono
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Post by wakkono »

its quite the oposite here in wales its been used to time dutys but when he guys are walking them geo says it should be 3 1/2 but in fact its 4 hours
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Tread
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Post by Tread »

Yeah the timeings are well out in our office but its still telling them that they need to put hours back in.
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simply_the_best
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Post by simply_the_best »

What is it?
Fluke
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Post by Fluke »

In our office it take 13 jobs out. Are there any guidance notes on its use?
lovejoy
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Re: Pegasus?

Post by lovejoy »

Fluke wrote:Can anyone confirm that it is an agreed work tool? If so when was it agreed and are there any details on its use? We were told today that using Pegasus will mean the loss of 13 jobs in our office with some walks having nearly 1000 drops on them. :shock:
All Div reps received training on pegasus last week. Area Reps are next then local reps. Until then NO REPS SHOULD BE AGREEING TO PEGASUS REVISIONS AND DISAGREEMENTS SHOULD BE REGISTERED
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Post by AndyK »

all CWU reps should be getting training on geo-route, if not demand it, before any changes are made.
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

simply_the_best wrote:What is it?
A Management and CWU agreed tool designed (allegedly) to equalize walks by measuring how far you walk. It is capable of measuring the distance from a house to the street and then onto the next house. Very good if used correctly, but pants if there is no union involvement.
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Post by mrlovepantsuk »

also the maps arent really that accurate either
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Post by simply_the_best »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
A Management and CWU agreed tool designed (allegedly) to equalize walks by measuring how far you walk. It is capable of measuring the distance from a house to the street and then onto the next house. Very good if used correctly, but pants if there is no union involvement.

Cheers mate, we have 7 walks and i would bet that all of them at the moment take over 4 hrs, be interesting to see what that machine came up with :shock:
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Post by AndyK »

it as walk speed 4mph (can be lowered only slightly, it as call rate (they decide) most important you get 95%+ get all flats manually timed.
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

They got us at 3.8 mph and 83% call rate with 8 seconds per drop point. Slightly lower speed because of the hills round here. Another thing to watch is it does not take account of cutting off to get another bag, if you have a particular point you always do this try to get it included.
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Post by hooniebagoonie »

ive been trained on geo route and yes if all the info is correctly input into the system it is a a good tool and it will add walks into the majority of offices....management dont want this so they will and have manipulated the figures to suit themselves....they want call rate figures as low as possible, up the walk speed and various other little tweaks.
when we ran the scenarios in our office it added 2 duties and even with management manipulation it left us the same as we are now
they had a bit of a hiccup though as the system was turned off to allow ordance survey to update there maps and when it was turned back on the system didnt work properly.......led to believe there could be a 6 month time scale to put right all those offices already done
typical RM...could organise a bunk up in a brothel