The CWU saves the day

frankieboy · Post by **frankieboy** » 25 Mar 2020, 20:51

I see a lot of tribunals coming up, I will be refusing to deliver non esssential mail, I will take the consequences and fight them in court

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 25 Mar 2020, 20:55

ROB13 wrote:What use are gloves? If you touch your face without being able to wash regularly doesn't matter if you have gloves on or not you're still at risk!!

None.
In fact in our environment they're probably more dangerous.
People think they are somehow invincible with gloves on and stop washing their hands.

JKSmudge · Post by **JKSmudge** » 25 Mar 2020, 21:05

CWU patting themselves on the back again for f**k all. At least we expect RM to be total dicks, union doing sweet FA as per usual.

mjd24 · Post by **mjd24** » 25 Mar 2020, 21:09

Woody Guthrie wrote:
ROB13 wrote:What use are gloves? If you touch your face without being able to wash regularly doesn't matter if you have gloves on or not you're still at risk!!
None.
In fact in our environment they're probably more dangerous.
People think they are somehow invincible with gloves on and stop washing their hands.

Gloves and masks just give people a false sense of security

sindba · Post by **sindba** » 25 Mar 2020, 21:17

Gloves are useless.

UNLESS you wash/disinfect your gloves or change them *every time you touch anything*

Some posties just pop them on, wear them all day, and think it's offering protection of some sort.

nuisance · Post by **nuisance** » 25 Mar 2020, 21:19

Gloves are great if you change them whenever they are potentially contaminated. However since we're being issued a pair a day rather than a box, yep, waste of time.

I think masks would help, but they would also be annoying and no one can get any anyway, which is why we keep getting told by "experts" that they wouldn't help IMHO.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 25 Mar 2020, 21:27

Andy Burnham, a former UK health secretary and now the mayor of Greater Manchester in the north of England, says he is taking legal advice on whether firms forcing employees to work without adequate protection and not observing guidance to keep them two metres apart are breaking the law.

After a conference call with Greater Manchester MPs, he tweeted:

Andy Burnham
(@AndyBurnhamGM)
... I am taking legal advice about whether @gmpolice or other GM agencies can take enforcement action against companies which are exposing their employees in this way. If you would like to make a confidential report, please do so using:
the.mayor@greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk 2/2

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 25 Mar 2020, 21:31

sindba wrote:Gloves are useless.

UNLESS you wash/disinfect your gloves or change them *every time you touch anything*

Some posties just pop them on, wear them all day, and think it's offering protection of some sort.

I'm just waiting for the first complaint because I'm not wearing them. Had a couple of people ask me why I didn't have them on today. I can see myself being forced to wear them....As you say Sindba, they still need cleaned.
It's like putting up an umbrella to protect you from an avalanche otherwise...

Intercityfirm1970 · Post by **Intercityfirm1970** » 25 Mar 2020, 22:08

Load of crap probably 85% off offices nationwide are like s**t holes with managers acting like Rod Hull and emu.
Pushing us out on The streets longer and when inside no social distancing.. They don't give two f***s as long as the USO gets done and all the while we are on the front line concerning our health and well being.

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 25 Mar 2020, 22:13

rambo1 wrote:
nickbsmooth wrote:Shared vans are back tomorrow at my DO, it lasted 48hrs. Fortunately I'm off for the rest of the week.
Then walk out. Shared vans should not be happening now.

I will do if it's still the case when I return next week.

methodical · Post by **methodical** » 25 Mar 2020, 22:14

We have agreed with the company to send them a list of offices ( On Facebook ) where the 2 metre social distancing has not been implemented and they have agreed to act on this immediately

There are dozens (at least) of offices named and shamed on CWU facebook page - they'll be earning our subs to get them all up to speed tomorrow!

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 25 Mar 2020, 22:23

Intercityfirm1970 wrote:Load of crap probably 85% off offices nationwide are like s**t holes with managers acting like Rod Hull and emu.

We've got Pinky and the Brain in ours.

miles_peters · Post by **miles_peters** » 26 Mar 2020, 04:50

Postie45 wrote:
mtber wrote:Have we got any clarity on lapsing Are we still required to do it ?
Start time, finish time... Anything you're asked to do in between is largely fair game.

100% disagree. not in the current climate. its about health and safety and protecting lives now.

Norsegold · Post by **Norsegold** » 26 Mar 2020, 06:00

Yes but........

What is happening with at risk/vulnerable employees with underlying health conditions who should not be at work for both their own good and to help the NHS?

We urgently need great pressure applied to get RM to stand by their workforce - is furloughed workers and Government support an option
The CWU could find out very quickly.

The longer this takes the greater the risk vulnerable staff who are being forced into work by the threat of no pay.

Duty of care?

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 26 Mar 2020, 10:18

What it actually says at the bottom of the original post on Facebook is this......

So, please keep the comments very simple. If your office has not implemented social distancing please simply put your office name in the comments below.

TO REPEAT WE ONLY WANT OFFICE NAMES ON THIS THREAD. WE WILL THEN TAKE THE FULL LIST AT 9pm TONIGHT AND SEND TO ROYAL MAIL AND YOUR BRANCH

As of now there are over 1100 comments.....