Van sharing must stop : UPDATE 23March Guidance is being sent to managers on how to introduce social distancing in our operations, including moving to one person per van

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 24 Mar 2020, 09:42

themailman wrote:They will need to set up staggered times we can enter/exit the building also. At van loading times our main doorway is like the ticket barriers at a train station. Same with sign in sheets and job/prep sheet.

That's more a personal responsibility issue than something that should need to be set up.

If there are already people in an area don't go there. If it means you sign in 5 minutes late tough.

themailman · Post by **themailman** » 24 Mar 2020, 11:45

mattandbenny · Post by **mattandbenny** » 24 Mar 2020, 12:02

Just been told by a manager to come in at 11 tomorrow. Full timer will be doing 5am - 11am and i will be finishing the delivery off when i get in at 11.

Ozzvaldo · Post by **Ozzvaldo** » 24 Mar 2020, 13:31

mjd24 wrote:Full lapsing today in my office.

And in mine. Anybody who didn't think they could manage it was told to stream mail from their own delivery, but not the lapsed walks. Our indoor operation was compromised a fair bit by distancing measures, so most people were in this boat.

Post by **HTPostman** » 24 Mar 2020, 13:42

The message isn’t getting through is it? I left a 2 metre gap in front of me in the queue for the specials. Someone stood right behind me breathing down my neck. Someone else didn’t think I was in the queue so stood in front of me filling the safe gap so I walked away.

Went back to my frame, bent down to pick up a bag, a line manager who’s only job is to collect empty trays came up, collecting trays right next to me just inches from me - can’t he collect fcking trays when we’ve all left the building?!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:20

viking1488 wrote:
themailman wrote:
daveyeff wrote:our DOM mentioned the union meeting with management today and said it IS going to happen(stop van sharing). i asked what are the thousands of non-driver posties going to do then. he said they were looking at us working from home. as in.....having duties prepped and dropped off at your home....now i am all ears on how they are going to swing this one???
Nice, so what if non driver is full time?

Driver goes into DO, adheres to 2-3m spacing, preps duty, loads van, gets keys specials etc, drives to partners house (we are now 2-3 hours into shift at this point), toots the horn to wake them up, allow them to take 14 loops of mail (30 mins a loop) out the back of van - passenger shouts - "what do you mean I've to do 7 hours on delivery?!?" Driver does a few loops plus ALL packets big or small, RD's, post boxes and specials (remember they have already been working for 3 hours). At finish the passenger should have nothing left as they are letters only, don't even need a PDA. Repeat the next day.

In reality though, I can see drivers getting absolutely shafted here.
our DOM mentioned the union meeting with management thats crap the meeting got cancelled by rm

turned out it was right what he was saying though. they stopped the van sharing. and some posties had mail dropped off at their house for delivery.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:27

Who agreed to that davey?
Your office is something else.

themailman · Post by **themailman** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:30

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:33

mjd24 wrote:Full lapsing today in my office.

How ? It's impossible with 1 per van or are you ignoring that at your office ?

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:33

It's a massive security breach storing mail in your house, personally I wouldn't touch it with a very long bargepole.
Something goes missing.....

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:37

Woody Guthrie wrote:It's a massive security breach storing mail in your house, personally I wouldn't touch it with a very long bargepole.
Something goes missing.....

Plus it opens up recipient to some severe stitching up such as...
D2D for whole or lot of delivery on one day.
Not able to see workload before it is tied up and follow over-running procedure with lino.

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:39

Also my house isn't a RM mail storage point... Maybe they can offer to pay rent if they wish to store their mail at my property?

themailman · Post by **themailman** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:41

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 24 Mar 2020, 14:55

Woody Guthrie wrote:Who agreed to that davey?
Your office is something else.

well is the ''Royal Mail brief to managers'' post that was put out by Postman last night not an agreed item like? cos if its not then our office is doing unagreed practises. according to them the safety of the workforce is paramount, hence the van sharing being knocked on the head.

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