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General Election 12th December

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Celgar
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Post by Celgar »

Ryan741 wrote:Can you opt out of election stuff? Didn't know you could do that.
You sort of can in that you would get moved onto a different walk or maybe to a different office while the leaflets were delivered on your walk. Then you could go back onto your walk. I have never seen a postie opt to do this though in twenty years.
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Post by rambo1 »

worktotime wrote:
Murdoch wrote:
Ryan741 wrote:Can you opt out of election stuff? Didn't know you could do that.
You can't
you can , if you don't agree with a party you have the right to not deliver those items.
Urmm, no you don't. I think you'll find.
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south London postie wrote:Not Corbyn's fault tough - they campaigned for Brexit at the last General Elextion. It's the Tony Blair-type people - Starmer, Thornberry, Jess Philips, etc - they forced the Labour Party to support a second ref.
Isn't the Labour stance to support the working person? Well, there will be less (working people) if Brexit happens on the current ' withdrawal agreement' or even worse if we crash out, so I don't see personally, how they could not want to stop Brexit.
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postmanzach wrote:Long as I get paid extra for them I don’t see a problem. The problem is that people often go over their time at Christmas and will definitely be expecting to get paid for it, but usually with election stuff we been told you can’t claim for them and for overtime. So not sure how it’s going to work.
If they try that one on, then just say ok I'll work to time and not claim any overtime, only getting election payments for the bits I complete. See how long their stance lasts then.
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Post by rambo1 »

Marshamp11 wrote:
danny2006 wrote:If anybody in our office says we ain't gonna manage lapsing or finish on time, we get the Ahh, but you were back and hour/ half hour on Tuesday/Saturday, you owe this back, swings and roundabouts.
I go over my time everyday so where are my swings and roundabouts. Maybe tomorrow I will tell the lino that I wont book the hour over my time I will come in an hour late friday morning instead to bring me in line with swings and roundabouts.Got to work both ways surely.
Well said.
Also if they are over on Wednesday, why are they an hr early on Tuesday and Saturday? I mean, that's really bad management of the office. Surely they need to cut Tuesday and Saturday hrs down and put em into Wednesday and Thursday? It's not rocket science.
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Post by smartecosse »

Can you still opt to not work past your finish time if there are election leaflets or do you have to stay out till you've completed them?

Thanks
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Post by Sir Henry »

You can still work to your time.
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Our potential strike and the GE are two different things, having a GE can not stop us striking...
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Post by aiden01 »

POSTMAN wrote:Our potential strike and the GE are two different things, having a GE can not stop us striking...
Will they though.
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Post by work »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
shaun2urz wrote:
Murdoch wrote:
Ryan741 wrote:Can you opt out of election stuff? Didn't know you could do that.
You can't
You can
You can't totally opt-out of delivering election material, you can opt-out on safety ground and conscience for individual parties, though you have to be prepared to back it up.
:thumbdown for example Nationalistic tommy robinson 'let's give them a message they'll never forget*' convicted racist thug and founder/leader of a banned racist (edl) organisation would be considered stirring-up racial hatred in potentially volatile communities...so if youse are delivering said propaganda which RMG DISTRIBUTED IN 2019 IN THE NORTH WEST OF ENGLAND (shameful commercialism RM :oops: ) you may in fact opt out on personal reasons (ie: he is a convicted racist thug :speak to the hand ) or safety reasons (ie: you don't want to be put at risk in the community you deliver to daily. :speak to the hand
NOTE: Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known as Tommy Robinson, is a British far-right anti-Islam activist. He is the co-founder and former leader of the English Defence League, and later served as a political advisor to former UKIP leader Gerard Batten. Robinson has been active in far-right politics for many years. He ran an unsuccessful bid May 2019 in European elections; without a manifesto. UKIP were also unsuccessful, too. Yaxley-Lennon is currently being banned from attending all England football matches anywhere in the world...So if you do NOT WISH TO PROMOTE POLITICAL EXTREMISM, then don't. Managers should deal with your opt out sensitively and professionally...you really ought not to kick up a public storm, just refuse privately in confidence stating your case. :thumbup
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Post by masterblaster »

NorthernPostman wrote:MPs have voted for a General Election on the 12 December. This is going to be fun handling all the leaflets and poll cards, along with potential strikes, all at the busiest time of the year!
Lets hope it snows all the previous week.
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Post by Celgar »

If our strike is likely or going to disrupt communications and the ability to vote in the general election it's almost certain an injunction will be brought by the government. They will not let us stop the election running smoothly even though Gina Miller was allowed to twice throw a spanner in the works of government.
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Celgar wrote:If our strike is likely or going to disrupt communications and the ability to vote in the general election it's almost certain an injunction will be brought by the government. They will not let us stop the election running smoothly even though Gina Miller was allowed to twice throw a spanner in the works of government.
what government? it gets dissolved next week. :Very Happy
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Post by yellowbelly »

daveyeff wrote:
Celgar wrote:If our strike is likely or going to disrupt communications and the ability to vote in the general election it's almost certain an injunction will be brought by the government. They will not let us stop the election running smoothly even though Gina Miller was allowed to twice throw a spanner in the works of government.
what government? it gets dissolved next week. :Very Happy
Parliament get dissolved, the Govt. does not......
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Post by daveyeff »

its power is greatly restricted though. every MPs seat becomes vacant, and constituencies are unrepresented. all unfinished business remains unfinished and use of public money is more or less out of bounds. plus its certainly not against the law to strike during a GE. can't see an injunction taking place just to suit them.