RMG Managers Pay Dispute

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 20 Oct 2019, 00:41

I'm not sure the managers will accept the current deal although I'm 'just' an OPG so I don't know. I gather they were not happy with the initial offer they were given. The posties accepted the last pay deal, which we now know wasn't worth a carrot, so maybe the managers will accept this one.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 20 Oct 2019, 03:04

mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:I find it funny the number of people on here who are jealous of the managers who earn more and want to improve their life styles.

Get over it. If you want to earn more become a manager

Another ad hominem post. Though I find your assertion that you know the personal motivation of everyone who disagrees with you on a certain issue a little self indulgent.

Perhaps someday you may make a contribution to a discussion, even if contrary to others, without personalising it.

What you post is not against the rules, but you add nothing to the debate which is disappointing for a forum that tries to welcome all. Managers and supporters of their positions would probably be made more welcome by members if they showed respect to others viewpoints. You may think thats unfair, but managers are meant to be leaders, and leaders (and therefore managers) must be held to a higher level of standards, otherwise, they aren't leading anyone.

Post by **aiden01** » 20 Oct 2019, 10:16

Celgar wrote:I'm not sure the managers will accept the current deal although I'm 'just' an OPG so I don't know. I gather they were not happy with the initial offer they were given. The posties accepted the last pay deal, which we now know wasn't worth a carrot, so maybe the managers will accept this one.

Any managers ive spoken say they will vote no.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » 20 Oct 2019, 10:23

mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:I find it funny the number of people on here who are jealous of the managers who earn more and want to improve their life styles.

Get over it. If you want to earn more become a manager

Jealous of a manager? Never in a million years - puppets on strings

Old Rico is planning on removing the line manager role and giving it to the Dom support - let the culling begin.

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 20 Oct 2019, 10:33

Trail wrote:
rogersh wrote:The RM/Unite deal;
Royal Mail said it had reached a negotiated agreement with Unite on a two-year pay deal for junior and middle-managers.
Under the proposals, managers will receive a pay increase of 2.6% this year, backdated to September 1, and a pay increase of 2.7% from September 1, 2020.
Over two years, this means a pay increase of 5.37%. Managers will also receive a £1,000 bonus advance in December 2019.
A ballot on the offer will now be held, said Royal Mail.
And teachers get a pay increase of 2.75 (inflation is currently 1.7 in the UK so that means 0.95 increase in wages) ...for teaching children how to read, write, add-up, take-away, divide, learn about history, geography, PE, science, PSHE, English, Maths, social skills, everything.
Please stop the world, I want to get off.

I don't believe those managers are worth that sort of pay rise either, but does anyone really want to go down the route of pay rises being based on status,learning and comparative social worth?
"This year, surgeons, doctors and nurses will get 5%, and RM employees will get 0%"
I can't think that anyone would argue for that scenario.

maisymoo04 · Post by **maisymoo04** » 20 Oct 2019, 13:00

mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:I find it funny the number of people on here who are jealous of the managers who earn more and want to improve their life styles.

Get over it. If you want to earn more become a manager

you must be one of the ones who were on royal mail tv saying I LOVE MY JOB I LOVE THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH BEST THING I EVER DONE . HAVE CHEEK TO POST A REVIEW ON HERE TELLING US TO GET OVER IT ????????

Post by **Brandy** » 20 Oct 2019, 17:44

maisymoo04 wrote:
mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:I find it funny the number of people on here who are jealous of the managers who earn more and want to improve their life styles.

Get over it. If you want to earn more become a manager
you must be one of the ones who were on royal mail tv saying I LOVE MY JOB I LOVE THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH BEST THING I EVER DONE . HAVE CHEEK TO POST A REVIEW ON HERE TELLING US TO GET OVER IT ????????

Just ignore these posts,all they are trying to do is wind you up,and get a reaction.Very childish.

maisymoo04 · Post by **maisymoo04** » 20 Oct 2019, 20:30

i no brandy

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 20 Oct 2019, 20:49

Would love to know how much bull has been fed back up the chain to Rico about how vital managers are to the company because IMHO there are too many layers of managers.

redneck · Post by **redneck** » 20 Oct 2019, 23:16

wookie wrote:When we are out on delivery, what do they do? An empty office, on their own for over 4 hours. Especially when higher management want to cut thousands of jobs to save money. (bigger walks)

They sit down and scheme over how to bully, intimidate, bribe and twist staff to come in early, not take their breaks, rat on their fellow workers just so the office gets cleared every day. I won't say all managers don't deserve what they get, but pretty much all. Some of them talk a great job, are earning £40,000 and clear off to the second job by 1.

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 21 Oct 2019, 17:28

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Another ad hominem post.

Everyday's a learning day on RM Chat!

Post by **Navalron** » 21 Oct 2019, 22:00

Lincox wrote:nd state pensioners get 4%!
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How do you work that one out?
I have been retired nearly five years and never had a pension increase of 4% during that period. I would also remind you that the basic state pension for newly retired people is about £165 a week depending on their NI record being full. If it was 4% ,which it isn't, then in money terms it would still be less than the 2.7% increase on a full time postmans wage. Yes there are a lot of well off pensioners but there are a damn sight more that have to struggle from week to week because this country's record for paying decent pensions is well down the list of nations that provide sustainable incomes for their retired citizens.

I see the letters and effects every day in my job. 100% what you said is true.

Post by **Trail** » 22 Oct 2019, 10:52

redneck wrote:
wookie wrote:When we are out on delivery, what do they do? An empty office, on their own for over 4 hours. Especially when higher management want to cut thousands of jobs to save money. (bigger walks)
They sit down and scheme over how to bully, intimidate, bribe and twist staff to come in early, not take their breaks, rat on their fellow workers just so the office gets cleared every day. I won't say all managers don't deserve what they get, but pretty much all. Some of them talk a great job, are earning £40,000 and clear off to the second job by 1.

Preach, brother.

Rommagic · Post by **Rommagic** » 22 Oct 2019, 14:44

What date we find out if managers accept deal?