God can you imagine him standing on the street corner at 12.30 with another half dozen full timers who won't go back into the office until their inside man gives them the all clear, just in case they have to do some more work to take them up to their finish time ?aiden01 wrote: UNDERCOVER BOSS
The reason posties cut corners is to finish early not to finish on time, they have the data from the pdas they know the route we take and when we stop when they choose to use it to cut jobs its our fault, all along the union have said to us do the job as set out by our employers and that is still the case but tomorrow i will turn up for work and the box work will be done on at least two walks when i left Saturday the d2ds were in the frame on some walks so they can get out early.norris9 wrote:Man, a huge amount of Posties are not doing van checks, cutting across peoples lawns, doorstepping, etc...because they are rushed off their feet with too much to deliver within their time. Managers know this and don't care as they know it boosts productivity by 10%+, they only care when a parcel goes missing or a van has an issue due to neglect.
Yes, this probably results in some compensation claims when parcels go missing and vans being needed to be fixed due to neglect.....but overall I'd assume that this 10%+ increase in productivity from these Posties across the UK is a positive in terms of the back pockets of RM.
I am not sure what else posties can do to become more productive, they are already having to take shortcuts, there are not many more shortcuts they can take.
Maybe RM plan to provide them with jet packs?
cpsteve wrote:The reason posties cut corners is to finish early not to finish on time, they have the data from the pdas they know the route we take and when we stop when they choose to use it to cut jobs its our fault, all along the union have said to us do the job as set out by our employers and that is still the case but tomorrow i will turn up for work and the box work will be done on at least two walks when i left Saturday the d2ds were in the frame on some walks so they can get out early.norris9 wrote:Man, a huge amount of Posties are not doing van checks, cutting across peoples lawns, doorstepping, etc...because they are rushed off their feet with too much to deliver within their time. Managers know this and don't care as they know it boosts productivity by 10%+, they only care when a parcel goes missing or a van has an issue due to neglect.
Yes, this probably results in some compensation claims when parcels go missing and vans being needed to be fixed due to neglect.....but overall I'd assume that this 10%+ increase in productivity from these Posties across the UK is a positive in terms of the back pockets of RM.
I am not sure what else posties can do to become more productive, they are already having to take shortcuts, there are not many more shortcuts they can take.
Maybe RM plan to provide them with jet packs?
That's not representative as it's the opposite in our office, some of the full timers who have been here for years dash around and finish hours before everyone else. We need to stick together, not start all this divide and rule rubbish (that's what the people at the top want!)Exactly mate, same in our office. Majority of the recent new starts are the issue in the office as there's no telling them.
Will not be a need for redundancies involuntary of otherwise given how many posties leave each year versus how many job losses RM are aiming for.hero22 wrote:Anyone reckon if there is a strong possibility of involuntary redundancies ?
Didn't say it was representative across the board and also there are longer serving guys in my office who r just as bad, but it has been the case where many of the new starts are refusing to come in on time , take their breaks and do the job correctly. Nothing to do with divide and rule, its simply seeing people refusing to follow simple instructions from the union which in turn will wreck this job for the majority that angers me. I don't see how anyone can stand by and support that.itinerant wrote:That's not representative as it's the opposite in our office, some of the full timers who have been here for years dash around and finish hours before everyone else. We need to stick together, not start all this divide and rule rubbish (that's what the people at the top want!)Exactly mate, same in our office. Majority of the recent new starts are the issue in the office as there's no telling them.
The eye-opener there would be that a minority is finished early and hang around until it's safe to return to the unit. At present they think that's all of us.clashcityrocker wrote: God can you imagine him standing on the street corner at 12.30 with another half dozen full timers who won't go back into the office until their inside man gives them the all clear, just in case they have to do some more work to take them up to their finish time ?
It would be a real eye opener for him.
And when an OPG does just that they get targeted by management and more often than not their "fellow workers" just bury their heads in the sand and then make the rounds look doable when said OPG is on day out or holiday.cpsteve wrote:the union have said to us do the job as set out by our employers
This is a great idea in theory, but realistically, every day can be different and this would be open to abuse with posties intentionally 'slowing down'. Although you can come in each day, have a look at your duty and think it looks an average day, once you're out, a multitude of unforeseen issues can arise, causing you to be over your time. It's not workable for the managers as they're gambling on anything being brought back, and having the availability for someone to clear the work on overtime.ddtc wrote:Do away with the over running procedure, its not like management want to use it so why should we. Lot of headaches come from judging if we can finish the workload or not on any given day.
Coming in on time, taking breaks, van checks, doing the job properly would be less stressful if we can just bring stuff back without needing to ask managers that you think you can't complete. Then management can look into walks that can't be done, they get paid enough to do jack anyway.
Its easy to just say do the job properly, but the hassle and stress the management put on some of our colleagues that try just isn't worth it and so a lot give in.
Actually, don't bring descent footwear, bring royal mail team issue. To get a true picture, blisters and aching feet to boot, ( no pun intended).Marshamp11 wrote:I see a documentary a few years ago about a company whos policy was that everybody in the office including management/secretaries and the guy who owned the business had to work for 2 weeks a year on the shop floor to have a better understanding on problems that are faced at the sharp end. That is the way to go. No worries I will train you Rico, bring decent footwear though its a long 6 hour slog of a delivery.roadrunner bill wrote:Share holders are feeling the pain..
Ask the delivery staff.. if they are feeling the pain.. from your draconian treatment..
Fairness in work leads.. these people need to do a delivery for a week.. so out of tough with delivery..
The Video States re the discussions on the shorter working week;POSTMAN wrote: