hypothetical strike situation

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 25 May 2019, 02:35

We could also get you to deliver a few flyers on the side nothing wrong in that knock on a few doors anything to stop that Buffoon Johnson and his ilk continuing in power they will take this country over the edge of a cliff to stay in power!

WRIGHT88 · Post by **WRIGHT88** » 25 May 2019, 07:03

Don't worry about it this union is so rubbish there won't be no strikes

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 25 May 2019, 09:59

The union would not call strike dates that interfered with the democratic process, it would be a PR disaster.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 25 May 2019, 16:22

WRIGHT88 wrote:Don't worry about it this union is so rubbish there won't be no strikes

If any trials of the new parcel system do not fail and get dropped and it cannot be negotiated away then there will have to be proper & sustained industrial action nationally. The CWU could not stand by and let potentially 20,000 union members lose their jobs. I'm not saying strike actions would actually stop it happening but a stand will have to be taken.

glass joe · Post by **glass joe** » 25 May 2019, 17:04

Striking is pointless, work to rule is much better. if most of the office takes part.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 25 May 2019, 17:13

Surely this is a moot point. Much like the Brexit vote.... We could all vote YES and we still wouldn't go out. As demonstrated in our last effort! It seems like the YES Vote was just used as a negotiating tool (God Knows what for) and RM was let of the hook...Again!

Marshamp11 · Post by **Marshamp11** » 25 May 2019, 17:39

glass joe wrote:Striking is pointless, work to rule is much better. if most of the office takes part.

My opinion too. Cause havoc from within. Management then have to then really manage instead of having a cushy day whilst we are on the street.

Post by **wacko74** » 25 May 2019, 17:56

Celgar wrote:
wacko74 wrote:The way strikes typically work is we ballot for strike action, then RM get it ruled unlawful on some technicality or other and the whole thing fizzles out.
I think that happened last time because the union didn't go through the mediation process after the first set of talks. The CWU won't make that mistake twice.

It's happened previously as well when RM went to the high court and got the strike ballot ruled unlawful on some technicality (years ago now, don't ask me just when)

twoloops · Post by **twoloops** » 25 May 2019, 17:59

Remember the last so called strike & we bottled it, yet again

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 25 May 2019, 20:38

glass joe wrote:Striking is pointless, work to rule is much better. if most of the office takes part.

Would a work to rule stand any chance of lasting more than 5mins in deliveries across the country?

redneck · Post by **redneck** » 27 May 2019, 10:56

In my experience the only thing that has instant success is the unofficial walkout. However the recriminations afterwards as managers 'witchhunt' the perceived culprits are not pleasant. Tory industrial stranglehold laws, never removed by 'New Labour', have for decades dumbed down worker input into the industrial melting pot. Royal Mail, like all employers, have the upper hand at the moment. The current Labour Party, if elected, will remove many of the limitations on industrial action, and then progress can be made with a more potent threat in the background behind any negotiations. Currently we have our negotiators working with one hand tied behind their back all the time.

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 27 May 2019, 13:03

glass joe wrote:Striking is pointless, work to rule is much better. if most of the office takes part.

you cant even get people to not start before their start time now, these are the people who would last 1-2 days of "working to rule" and realise theyre not making any time, so would be back to coming in early by day 3, then others will see that and join them. :arrrghhh

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 27 May 2019, 16:41

Postie45 wrote:
glass joe wrote:Striking is pointless, work to rule is much better. if most of the office takes part.
you cant even get people to not start before their start time now, these are the people who would last 1-2 days of "working to rule" and realise theyre not making any time, so would be back to coming in early by day 3, then others will see that and join them.

Not a good idea to mention the 'work to rule' phrase while working for RM as they take objection to it. Our DO managed to do the job 'properly' together for nearly a whole week to prove a point to the finance director to make him realise they were getting their pound of flesh. We stopped an attempt to cut the office budget although afterwards I think he accused us of 'working to rule' . We were just following their rules & guidelines to the letter so say that and not the other phrase.